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Itso
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If you read both my post carefully you will notice that I never made any claims about the situation in N. Korea. So don't try to argue that I am "fact-checking" whithout evidence. Unlike you, I never claimed anything. All I said is that we should try to be more peacefull in our approach to N. Korea, don't you agree?


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If you read both my post carefully you will notice that I never made any claims about the situation in N. Korea.


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MisterOpus1
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quote:
Originally posted by Itso
If you read both my post carefully you will notice that I never made any claims about the situation in N. Korea. So don't try to argue that I am "fact-checking" whithout evidence. Unlike you, I never claimed anything. All I said is that we should try to be more peacefull in our approach to N. Korea, don't you agree?


Of course I agree, but to a certain extent - the caveat(sp?) would be if there was an actual "imminent" threat towards the US or our allies. We should use diplomacy as much as possible, and should exhaust all possibilities before thinking about a war with this country.

True, your posts did not directly make any claims about the situation in N. Korea. However, your posts did imply our incorrectness of the situation in N. Korea, which is comparable to saying our statements about N. Korea are false. To support your statements, you mentioned that we had to actually "be there" in order to know what the actual situation is in N. Korea. It was this implication and fallacious logic that I took a minor issue with. Lastly, it is not N. Korea that any of us are condemning, rather, the Pyongyong regime and oppressive government - hopefully this is somewhat obvious.

Aside of that, I think we probably agree that all options should be weighed with this country. And as long as they do not pose an actual threat to us or our allies (i.e. S. Korea), we can continue infinitum with our "hostile stance" without ever firing a shot.


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quote:
Originally posted by Itso
If you read both my post carefully you will notice that I never made any claims about the situation in N. Korea. So don't try to argue that I am "fact-checking" whithout evidence. Unlike you, I never claimed anything. All I said is that we should try to be more peacefull in our approach to N. Korea, don't you agree?


The pacifist approach was tried and failed during the Clinton years. In exchange for building two light water nuclear reactors and oil shipments so they can feed and clothe their people, they renegged on their agreement to abandon their nuclear weapons program. Over the past several decades they have continuously violated DMZ agreements along with building up significant amounts of troops and artillery enscarpments north of the 38th parallel. On top of this, their hostile rhetoric only reinforces the belief that the dictatorial leadership are a bunch of raving lunatics. So in response to all of this I suppose the US should remove its troops manning the dmz? That they'll all of a sudden comply, whereas every action on their part for the past several decades says otherwise?


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