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NYCTrancefan
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Registered: Jul 2003
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Everyone knows that Bush is only less inept a leader than he is a public speaker. The vernacular repertoire of a political leader such as Roosevelt or L.B.J is just not a part of Bush's capabilities, hence we are arguing a dead issue. Bad grammatical structure and all aside I would do better to see him out of office.


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xKaoSx
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Registered: Jul 2002
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As my commander in chief, I'm behind this president 100%.
I believe he is a stronger leader than we've had in this country than years I've been alive.


What are you? 3 years old?


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MisterOpus1
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Registered: Dec 2001
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quote:
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What are you? 3 years old?


Yeah, no kidding. I'm a progressive, but I'd take Bush Sr. and/or Reagan anyday of the week over this immature, stubborn, brat in office at present.


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xKaoSx
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Yeah, no kidding. I'm a progressive, but I'd take Bush Sr. and/or Reagan anyday of the week over this immature, stubborn, brat in office at present.


I wonder if you sat down with George Sr and asked him to critique the presidents perfomance what he would actually think.

He must watch him and just think " What the hell are you think'n boy?"


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MisterOpus1
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Registered: Dec 2001
Location: Kansas City

quote:
Originally posted by xKaoSx
I wonder if you sat down with George Sr and asked him to critique the presidents perfomance what he would actually think.

He must watch him and just think " What the hell are you think'n boy?"


Well, perhaps somethin' along those lines:

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Book: Poppy opposed Dubya's war





By THOMAS M. DeFRANK
DAILY NEWS WASHINGTON BUREAU CHIEF

WASHINGTON - A new book on the Bush political dynasty claims former President George H.W. Bush opposed last year's invasion of Iraq.
In "The Bushes: Portrait of a Dynasty," Peter and Rochelle Schweizer cite as evidence a summer 2002 interview in which the older Bush's sister said her brother had expressed his "anguish" about the administration's preparations for war.

"But do they have an exit strategy?" the former President is quoted as worrying.

"Although he never went public with them," the authors assert, "the President's own father shared many of [the] concerns" of Brent Scowcroft, his national security adviser and a leading war opponent.

Top Bush aide Jean Becker denied the allegations yesterday.

"From the very first day, President Bush 41 unequivocally supported the President on the war in Iraq," she said. "He had absolutely no reservations of any kind."

Peter Schweizer is a research fellow at Stanford University's conservative Hoover Institution and authored "Reagan's War."

The book pries open the door slightly on one of the Bush clan's most closely held secrets: the former President's private qualms about portions of his son's Iraq policy.

"He agrees with the policy goals but not with all of the execution," a close friend told the Daily News.

The older Bush has maintained strict public silence about possible differences, and only last week hammered "elites and intellectuals on the campaign trail" for criticizing the war.

Yet close friends and associates said the older Bush, while fiercely proud and protective of his son, nevertheless harbors concerns about the war and its aftermath.

These sources told The News that aside from his "exit-strategy" fears of a prolonged, bloody conflict, the ex-President is troubled that the war fractured the international coalition he painstakingly assembled to expel deposed Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein from Kuwait in 1991.

One close associate said the older Bush feels Vice President Cheney and Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld may have pushed President Bush too hard for a preemptive strike.

In his 1998 diplomatic memoir, the former President offered this impassioned defense of his controversial decision not to attack Baghdad and topple Saddam in 1991:

"Trying to eliminate Saddam ... would have incurred incalculable human and political costs. ... Had we gone the invasion route, the United States could conceivably still be an occupying power in a bitterly hostile land."

One well-placed Bush colleague said the older Bush recently acknowledged, "I'm having trouble with my boy," referring to Iraq.

Originally published on April 6, 2004

http://www.nydailynews.com/front/st...1p-157188c.html


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Registered: Feb 2001
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Re: June 30- Iraq on it's own?

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GW is doing a presidential news conference right now

Not sure how it could be called a 'news conference', since we didn't learn anything new and he didn't answer any questions. He could have just prerecorded the whole thing and sent it to CNN. His use of Vague generalities about supporting the troops, fighting for freedom, liberating the Iraqis and protecting America made me wonder if someone could break through this euphoric bubble he lives in and let him know what the hell is going on in Iraq and if he has a plan to get us out of there for god's sake!

I get the feeling when his staff needs to discuss foreign policy they send him into the daycare center room, where he can play with his toy tanks and dress up as a soldier, while the adults try to figure out what the heck to do.


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Not sure how it could be called a 'news conference', since we didn't learn anything new and he didn't answer any questions. He could have just prerecorded the whole thing and sent it to CNN. His use of Vague generalities about supporting the troops, fighting for freedom, liberating the Iraqis and protecting America made me wonder if someone could break through this euphoric bubble he lives in and let him know what the hell is going on in Iraq and if he has a plan to get us out of there for god's sake!


Maybe he's taking lessons from the Bin Ladin tapes?
Is it live or memorex?


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