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Shudder
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by the way Inertia, you should get the book 'Last night a dj saved my life' by Bill Brewster. theres a lot of info on how djing came to what it is now and the evolution of house, trance and hip hop movemeent. cause its all linked somehow.

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torontotrance
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Registered: Apr 2001
Location: Toronto

while yer at it

rough guide to house
rough guide to techno
rough guide to drum n bass

all have artists bios really but when you read it, the book puts the history. Even if you read all the books mentioned, it takes years to realize this crap because no one book has it all.

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SYSTEM-J
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quote:
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by the way Inertia, you should get the book 'Last night a dj saved my life' by Bill Brewster. theres a lot of info on how djing came to what it is now and the evolution of house, trance and hip hop movemeent. cause its all linked somehow.


I saw this book the other week, and very nearly bought it. Is it worth it?


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torontotrance
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if you want to learn more about music history then yes.

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Inertia
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Registered: Jul 2002
Location: Santo Domingo, Dominican Republic

quote:
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Breaks was really started in the mid 70's by Kool DJ Herc who isolated the break then repeated them or the dancable part of funk records from the late 60's, which he played.


yeah, found some nice texts on Clive Campbell aka Kool Herc, cool stuff.


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Inertia
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Registered: Jul 2002
Location: Santo Domingo, Dominican Republic

by the way dudes.

someone help me pick a soundrack.

when i speak of the first house music, what track should i have playing? the first breaks? frst trance?

for first techno. i was thinking something like rhythm is rhythm - strings of life.


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elena
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Registered: Jan 2002
Location: nyc

http://www.projecta.net/hisdm02.htm

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Bondor
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Registered: Nov 2001
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search this forum for a thread called "a short histery of trance" .... i think


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Lira
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Registered: Nov 2001
Location: Brasilia, Brazil

Check Ishkur's guide:
http://www.ishkur.com/features/music/index.htm

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i dont think a person doing a project about hip hop is going to talk about crack and rape

Uh?!


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mndeg
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Registered: Aug 2002
Location: IL, United States

quote:
Originally posted by Inertia
by the way dudes.

someone help me pick a soundrack.

when i speak of the first house music, what track should i have playing? the first breaks? frst trance?

for first techno. i was thinking something like rhythm is rhythm - strings of life.


rhythm is rhthm is nothing like the genre of techno that is played today, but you could categorize that as an early song

i think for techno you should use it as a "shock" song to show that mainstream culture is ignorant to what the genre of techno really is
play something really hard like electric deluxe - electric deluxe

trance definitely needs more than 2 songs and its pretty much up to you to choose


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Ishkur
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Registered: Jul 2001
Location: Vancouver, BC

I think torontotrance is missing the forest for the trees. Seriously man, he's just giving a short presentation on the history of electronic music, not a day-long in depth seminar. I doubt he has much more than 10-15 minutes to make his presentation, he can't possibly spend 90% of it talking about what Marshall Jefferson ate for breakfast the morning he decided to hook up a tb-303 to his drum machine.

A light overview works, especially if you want to talk about ALL of it. For names and pioneers (as well as the music they spearheaded), I recommend the following, in chronological order:

Early electronic pioneers (ie everything < 1970): Wendy Carlos, Kraftwerk, Bob Moog, Leon Theremin, John Cage, Steve Reich.
Brian Eno = ambient
Kool Herc = father of DJing
Throbbing Gristle = industrial
Giorgio Moroder = electronic disco (which beget Italo, which beget Hi-NRG, which beget eurodance)
Kurtis Blow = rap (debatable)
Afrikaa Bambaataa/Arthur Baker = electro
Juan Atkins = techno
Larry Levan = garage
Frankie Knuckles/Ron Hardy = house
Marshall Jefferson/DJ Pierre = acid house
KLF/The Orb = Ambient revival (ambient house)
Prodigy = oldskool rave hardcore (later morphing into happy hardcore)
Spiral Tribe = hardcore techno (which beget hardcore)
Sven Vath = trance
DJ Hype = jungle (debatable)
LTJ Bukem = atmospheric jungle
Union Jack = progressive trance (debatable)
Captain Tinrib/Tony de Vit = NRG/UK "hard" house
Aphex Twin = IDM

And then everything just becomes a jumbled mess after 1994, and no one's really sure who invented what at that point. If it's history you want, you really shouldn't dwell on anything after that year anyway. You seem to also want to give a rundown of today's best artists, so I'll give you my thoughts of your suggestions:

dave seaman
no

deep dish
no

sasha
no

digweed
no

james zabiela
no

james holden
no

steve lawler
no

danny howells
no

armin van buuren
no

tiesto
no

eddie halliwell
no

judge jules
no

paul van dyk
hmmm. Maybe, if time permits.

sven vath
yes.

ritchie hawtin
perhaps. Must include Plus-8 if you're going to talk about techno's second wave, after all.

frank lorber
no

erick morillo
no

satoshi tomiie
no

anthony pappa
no

adam freeland
no

hybrid
no


Not even sure what half of these guys are here for. They're decent producers/DJs, sure, and some of them are excessively popular, but they aren't innovators, groundbreakers and rule-changers of their particular fields. Keep that in mind when you're populating your presentation with names that will fly completely over the heads of your audience.

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Lira
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Registered: Nov 2001
Location: Brasilia, Brazil

*sits and takes notes*

A discussion on history of EDM between Ishkur and tta should be very intersting, to say the least I'll add my 2 cents later


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