damn i miss those days when awesome music would jsut spawn on yer computer while u were sleeping, fucking RIAA

It would be interesting to be around when my fav music gets a surge of success again, since I missed it the first time around. I dont want old sounds to come back though, they were great, but this is friggin electronica, the possibilities are endless. why not come up with new stuff or experiment a little? there might be some amazing things nobody has even tried before. I don't think its any one subgenre of trance that is going to do it, I think its going to take them all, cuz the best sets arent people just caning through one tiny subset of sounds, but a journey through all of them. I can't wait until the day when amazing new sounds come out week after week and there are bajillions of people who are there to hear it. I think it will require trancers of all kinds to come together tho, but so many ppl are soooo stuck in their own style. yeah it wont come back for a long time.

sry if u dont like this post, im in a wierd mood right now

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why not come up with new stuff or experiment a little?

because people like armin, sign these boring tracks...

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Heck, if you guys are complaining about Trance go out there and produce yourself, if you guys reckon you can come up with some better lets hear it!!

i hate ******s that say that...like go produce better shit...fuck off, if id have time, and a $100,000 studio id love to. There is no reason for these producers, to produce a lot of the garbage that they do.


plz go look in am ta producers for quality tracks.

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valid point.

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Originally posted by sandstorm03 i hate ******s that say that...like go produce better shit...fuck off, if id have time, and a $100,000 studio id love to. There is no reason for these producers, to produce a lot of the garbage that they do. plz go look in am ta producers for quality tracks.

all if's and buts.

If you spent less time moaning then you might have time to produce better stuff.

its the same fucking tossers who keep complaining about the standard of music, if you cant do anything better then quite the bitching and whining.

If its garbage then go out and put some good music out there so all our ears can have orgasms then

refer 2 my previous post u t00l

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nah, it is people like you who cannot take the reality of the situation and your kind bores me to death.

Look, people have opinions about music, some good and some bad. Tranceaddict is where people can do both and saying if you don't have anything good to say then don't say it is total bullshit. It is people like you that jump on people for having opinions, different as they may be from yours. I say let people express their opinions and if they are negative, so be it and if you don't like it, then you go away because I'm tired of these people who want only good things to say about music. People should be able to express their opinions good or bad and not need crybabies like you saying keep your negative opinion out of here.

lol im all for opinions, im just discussing yours.

I wasnt complaining about your negative opinion, your just as much entitled to the positive ones. I'm just suggesting if he claims its boring him why doesnt he have a go and produce some music which doesnt bore him and then share his efforts to give us our reaction. It's quotes like that, that can help a genre, if someone doesnt like the standard trance style, then they try and come up with something new so it benefits us all in the long run

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Originally posted by Frase all if's and buts. If you spent less time moaning then you might have time to produce better stuff. its the same fucking tossers who keep complaining about the standard of music, if you cant do anything better then quite the bitching and whining.

I'm going to agree with sandstorm that this is a really poor counterargument to the stale and declining trance sound.

Let me draw a helpful analogy: it's a bit like living under a government you don't like, and having someone reply to your criticisms by saying "well why don't you be president if you know so goddamn much??"

I'm not a politician, and I don't have the resources to run for government. That doesn't mean I can't criticize it, because I have a stake in government despite not being a politician.

Similarly, I'm not a producer. If I have the time and money someday, I will have the luxury to try. But I'm not completely sure I would have the necessary skills, either. That does not, however, ban me from criticizing the work of those who do produce, because I have a stake in what happens to trance. Like a single vote, I can only voice my opinion by supporting artists I like and DJs who play what I would like to hear more of. But I also have the right to criticize others who are driving the music in a direction that I think is wrong, just like political parties can speak out against each other. It's called free discourse. Every social arrangement suffocates to death without it.

Saying I cannot speak out against Armin and his ilk because I do not produce is the equivalent of musical tyrrany.

Further, one can criticize art without being an artist, because that's part of art's very nature.

Blah. Why do I bother. I'm probably going to get some two-liner reply with rolleyes smilies, saying something like "ooh, you think you're so elite" or "man yur just jelous," etc.

Yes but not everyone has the talent, the drive, the vision to produce or create tracks. Sandstorm is right in his opinion, I tend to agree with him. I understand if more people produced...it might help but all the producers are following and assraping other producers and trying to be the next armin or markus instead of carving out their own unique niche.