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Originally posted by StereoPrincess That is just WRONG. As if their supervisor had no idea that they should have patented this before publishing through Stanford. Fucking schools always trying to cheat the student. Like these guys wouldn't have set up some alumni fund. Now they are forced to give their money away.

I'm pretty sure U of T gets royalties from insulin too..

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Originally posted by StereoPrincess That is just WRONG. As if their supervisor had no idea that they should have patented this before publishing through Stanford. Fucking schools always trying to cheat the student. Like these guys wouldn't have set up some alumni fund. Now they are forced to give their money away.

I wouldn't label it WRONG without knowing all the details first. It is entirely possible that they've based their research on some existing technology already owned by Stanford earlier.

Having said that, I hear that scientific world is crazy. People stealing ideas from each other, not giving credit where credit is due etc.. Well, I guess it all happens because researches don't get nearly as much money for their research as they deserve.

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Originally posted by Durafei Having said that, I hear that scientific world is crazy. People stealing ideas from each other, not giving credit where credit is due etc.. Well, I guess it all happens because researches don't get nearly as much money for their research as they deserve.

Yes it is. I see it already in what I do. One prof is really bad apperently. "Incorporating" others work into yours is still stealing.

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Originally posted by Durafei Having said that, I hear that scientific world is crazy. People stealing ideas from each other, not giving credit where credit is due etc.. Well, I guess it all happens because researches don't get nearly as much money for their research as they deserve.

Yes it is. I see it already in what I do. One prof is really bad apperently. "Incorporating" others work into yours is still stealing.

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Originally posted by Durafei Are you talking about pop-ups or those ads displayed to the right of your search results? If you are talking about pop-ups, I've never seen any of those. If you are talking about ads displayed to the right of your search results - then this is the primary source of income for Google. Without those ads there would be no Google as we know it today. I actually kind of likes those advertisements. In many cases they are even more relevant than the search results.

No, no, of course not the ones to the sides and not pop-ups either. I'm talking some strange floating text that would follow my mouse and was in a sort of semi-transparent font (unless I'm dreaming) and was annoying as hell. And there was a statement saying that Google was providing me advertising in accordance to my search terms, but found no way of turning this off. Grrrr, it seemed like something they were experimenting with, and if they go ahead with that shit, I'm going to switch to another engine, as sad as that would be....

Had a meeting w/ Google today -- and they are VERY hush hush about when it will be.

Google is being required to submit financial disclosure documents by the SEC - which means the IPO is impending indeed.

As well, there is a possibility that there will be 2 classes of shares. Apparently the two founders are VERY concerned about loss of control and change of corporate culture once they go public. The only way around this is the have "A Class" and "B Class" where the A class has greater value on votes/control.

Expect something soon. I'm still 50/50 on whether I'll bet the ranch on this, but I do expect at least a 100% ROI within 8 to 12 months (as long as the economy/consumer spending stays strong - which is should as long as interest rates stay low, which should be as long as inflation stays stable --- wow a lot of conditions huh??!? )

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In answer to people thinking the university is taking their money. Stanford gave them access to the equipment, training, labs etc... At the time of its inception google would not have been possible without backing from the university.


I'm very interested in watching the estimates and predictions regarding google. We'll see if its worth the money i'm contemplating putting into it.

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While I truly hope that Google succeeds, I'd also like to see what Microsoft comes up with during the next couple of years.

Just as Google, MS has top-notch people working for them, so I wouldn't be surprised if MS will be able to come up with something as good as Google. Now you add this to the fact that MS already controls user's desktops(in other words search functionality would be integrated right into Windows) and MS have got themselves a winner.

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Originally posted by Durafei While I truly hope that Google succeeds, I'd also like to see what Microsoft comes up with during the next couple of years.

MS bought up most of the top talent @ Google about 1 year back when Gates made a mandate to develop in-haus search technology.

I've seen some of the preliminary stuff from Microsoft (from a client perspective) and it is friggin hardcore!

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Originally posted by rabbitjoker MS bought up most of the top talent @ Google about 1 year back when Gates made a mandate to develop in-haus search technology.

Are you sure about this?? I never heard anything about this. Why would anyone leave Google one year ago, considering the fact that they have probably been given great stock options at Google ?

On the other hand, even if this did happen, Google isn't wasting any time either. They've just hired Bill Joy, one of the original founders of Sun and UNIX architect.

Google files for 2.7 Billion IPO

http://money.cnn.com/2004/04/29/tec...dex.htm?cnn=yes