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Originally posted by fr0st prochoice all the way...

Ditto.

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Originally posted by steven neil What the fuck has it got to do with anyone,,except for the people it concerns.....theres far too many people hell bent on poking their noses into other peoples business.....fuck you....

You are right, it is between both partners and god. This is what I learned from reading everyones post. if you are pro-choice...fuck off, and if you aren't pro-choice....fuck off too.

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Originally posted by trancEyes22 i'm not sure how abortion even became such a huge controversy in the first place. it is a woman's right to choose, and not some conservative and/or overly religious person telling her how to live her life. abortion isn't murder, nor do i think it should be "birth control." pro-life activists are just another reason why women have been oppressed for so long.

OH WOW>>>> k you sparked the debater in me for this one!!



its a life.. thats why it shouldn't be a choice.. and LAST RESORT>>> please..

I'm definitely a debater when it comes to prolife issues.. but i've decided in the years to take a step back on the activism.. especially cuz in my years of running a prolife group on our college campus.. i thought it was best to be active with those seeking help!

Truthfully idont' think that there is anything that a prolifer can do at this poitn to prevent woman from having abortions..

BUT the facts.. abortions are the only surgical procedure that doesn't require the doctors to be honest with the patient.. and it doesn't require them to tell them what will happen during the procedure.. in fear that it can cause a woman to choose life in fear... this is proven facts.. look it up.. a woman's right to choice has led to many many deaths in this country!.. My personal opinion.. THIS NEEDS TO BE STOPPED!! I did a test on this a couple years ago and asked a couple different abortion clinics questions.. I pretended to be pregnant and asked such things as the stage my child was in.. and of 6 abortion clinics on 2 didn't lie to me!.. I stated very plainly.. I'm scared about this decision and I don't want to have an abortion if the baby is developed.. I told them when my last period was.. (peeps i've had three kids!! -- .. you tell me if this doesn't look like a baby or have a heartbeat).. i asked if i could hear the baby to make sure it didn't have a heartbeat.. they said don't worry we don't have to do that.. i said i was 10 weeks pregnant..

here is my son at just a couple months ...




here is my daugher but this is later in the pregnancy


i'll have to scan the ones of my son at 8 weeks.. but AWE!!!.. it was taken using the new radiology equipment from this place here in fairfax.. by far the best equipment like EVER!!


oh.. i'll brb i'll post more in a little!

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Originally posted by intelligent77 a woman's right to choice has led to many many deaths in this country!..

and a woman who has an unwanted baby leads to several societal issues-- poverty, abuse, HIV, drugs....giving life is not always the best choice, hence, abortion.

how would you feel if someone told you you weren't allowed to have the 3 kids you have now? it isn't their place to tell you. you made the choice to have your kids, because that was the best decision for you. but honey, a lot of people aren't as fortunate as you or i. and while i don't support getting an abortion as means to cover up your mistakes, i do think it is the best solution for a lot of women out there.

Everytime I masturbate im killing 1000's of children.....

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Originally posted by sanman201 You are right, it is between both partners and god. This is what I learned from reading everyones post. if you are pro-choice...fuck off, and if you aren't pro-choice....fuck off too.

There is no god. A decision is between the two people that are considering to have an abortion. A child is a responsibility for both of them, physically and financially. I haven't seen god sent a child support payment.

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Originally posted by intelligent77 its a life.. thats why it shouldn't be a choice.. and LAST RESORT>>> please..

at which point is it a last resort, when it is a choice? how "bad" does it need to get?

ps.: Intelligent: you might want to remove the name from your ultrasounds.

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Originally posted by trancEyes22 how would you feel if someone told you you weren't allowed to have the 3 kids you have now? it isn't their place to tell you. you made the choice to have your kids, because that was the best decision for you.

hahaha.. really??? I'm not going to get into the things that happened that led to the birth of my children.. I love them.. I choose life! and when I was seventeen I did what I considered my child my own and no one elses and I wasn't going to kill her just so i could have a better life! Period!

anayways! simply stating something both sides should fight for! While abortion is still a choice in this country. it deffinitely shouldn't be unregulated! Thats what i was stating above!! I don't believe in abortions.. and I've very prolife.. and I do what i can!

I started the prolife group on campus to provide girls who thought they didn't have any other choice or anyone there to help them, an option! I believe in prolife activists that work in a positive manor.. there isn't any benefits to showing the gross deaths and mangled children...

but here is one of hte biggest problems i have with that fucked up woman's right to choose... because the pro-choice peeps are trying to convince peeps that babies in the womb aren't real.. they are "fetus'" they take a vacuum and dismember the baby.. adn they don't provide this child with any anestetic and it fucking happens every fucking day! think about that FUCKED UP SHIT FOR A MOMENT>.. criminals are killed by leathal injection.. but because a woman has the right to kill her baby in her womb.. it has no right to at least not feel that pain.... a baby has EVERYTHING it needs to grow by 8 weeks!!! which includes a nervous system.....

I CAN"T OBVIOUSLY WIN THE WOMAN"S RIGHT TO CHOOSE.. but my god.. do doctors have to figure out the most painful way to kill this child.. and not provide it any pain relief...


sorry if i think abortions are the worst fuckin thing another human can do to such an innocent one!!

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Originally posted by trancEyes22 and a woman who has an unwanted baby leads to several societal issues-- poverty, abuse, HIV, drugs....giving life is not always the best choice, hence, abortion. how would you feel if someone told you you weren't allowed to have the 3 kids you have now? it isn't their place to tell you. you made the choice to have your kids, because that was the best decision for you. but honey, a lot of people aren't as fortunate as you or i. and while i don't support getting an abortion as means to cover up your mistakes, i do think it is the best solution for a lot of women out there.

Thats true..this would be the only solution for these women. But I don't think we should accecpt this and make abortion sound like its some wonderful right for women. You should condem these people. Just as you would condem a murderer. I don't care what decision they make about abortion. Thats between them and God.

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Originally posted by sanman201 Thats between them and God.

I just pray (ooh the irony) that my future GF's are all atheist. Then it's their decision alone, should they ever have to make it. Not that I hope that it'll ever happen.

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Originally posted by intelligent77 hahaha.. really??? I'm not going to get into the things that happened that led to the birth of my children.. I love them.. I choose life! and when I was seventeen I did what I considered my child my own and no one elses and I wasn't going to kill her just so i could have a better life! Period!

that is really good for you and your child. But would you not agree that one solution isn't the best for all people?

How about the crack-whore down the block that got knocked up by a john, is still using and whose child will be a lifetime addict, provided that it survives birth at all?

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anayways! simply stating something both sides should fight for! While abortion is still a choice in this country. it deffinitely shouldn't be unregulated!

so you want the GOVERNMENT to regulate who can and cannot have a child/ abortion? In all honesty, this country still CLAIMED to be the land of the free. In China, people are only allowed to have 1 kid/ family. Therefore people opt to get abortions a lot of times, since they want to have a son not a daughter.

I think that the government has no right to tell people how to live their lives. This includes choosing to terminate a pregnancy.

Now I do agree that abortions should not be allowed to be done after the child has reached a certain stage. What this stage is, I do not know, since I don't know enough about pregnancy.

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it has no right to at least not feel that pain.... a baby has EVERYTHING it needs to grow by 8 weeks!!! which includes a nervous system.

Given my lack of knowledge about how abortions are done, I have no idea on how such a termination is actually facilitated. Could anestestizing (spelling is off I bet) a baby make an abortion harder/ impossible?
Are there funds available for research into abortion practices and how much pain the baby feels? Even if there were, wouldn't many "pro-life" people object to this research in general?

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