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blitz~
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Registered: Aug 2003
Location: Ibiza/Berlin

and whenever someone complains the israelis always start some gay "anti-semitism" arguement, i could care less what religion someone is but what the israelis do in palestina is just crime after crime.

Old Post May-11-2004 09:40  Germany
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Nautilus
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There's a hell of a problem in the area between the Jordan River and the Mediterranean.

It's tacitly known the Arabs want the destruction of the Israeli state, but lack the military force to accomplish this feat. The only real weapon the Palestinians have that can accomplish this is the eventual overtaking of the Jewish population in this area by their own, which I’ve heard should take place within a generation’s time. Once this is done the Palestinians can change their ethnic-national struggle to a struggle of equal human suffrage. Once that happens the romantic hopes the Jews have of keeping their Israel a Jewish state will be thrown out the window. The bad thing is that the Palestinian Authority knows this and has made idle promises to crackdown on terrorism in its effort to slow down the peace process and destroy the Israeli hope of cementing its territorial future.

The Jews know to well that this is the truth and have been more earnestly and aggressively separating themselves physically from the Arabs and considering unilaterally declaring their own state. So, while time still remains their ally they are speeding up the demolition of Palestinian settlements and creating a divisive infrastructure (ie: the “Apartheid Wall”).

From my view neither party in this real life drama is the innocent. They know exactly what the other is doing or intends to do and as a result leads to the suicide bombings and forceful displacements we read or hear about everyday.

There seems to be no solution to this conflict and, short of waking up tomorrow with no religion in existence, I don’t see one.

Old Post May-11-2004 11:19  United States
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Yoepus
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There seems to be no solution to this conflict and, short of waking up tomorrow with no religion in existence, I don’t see one.


Religion is not the cause or reason for this conflict. Its absence will not solve the conflict.


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Old Post May-11-2004 14:46  Israel
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Nautilus
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quote:
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Religion is not the cause or reason for this conflict. Its absence will not solve the conflict.


Well we'll never know since religion won't disappear anytime soon, but you can't deny religion has been used in the past as a justification to commit gruesome acts of violence and terror against others of a different belief.

Old Post May-11-2004 21:00  United States
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As the great philospher George Carlin observed, more murder, terrorism, and genocide has been carried out in the name of God than anything else.


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ResonantDrag
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As the great philospher George Carlin observed, more murder, terrorism, and genocide has been carried out in the name of God than anything else.


and yet the name of man has been ignored? it's easy to justify hatred for another as being the will of god.. it disallows self reflection on what one is actually doing. To say that the conflict would be non-existant were it not for religion is just daydreaming. sure the power structure of the two sides would be different, but the hatred would be the same

i hate to be a pessimist, but i don't see any real solution to this conflict

btw... what ever happened to bush's roadmap?

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