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Originally posted by trunks1022 yeah i wish a whole lot of people weren't blinded and brainwashed by the media and the administration.

Rush always finds a way to blame everything on the Clenis!

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Rush: "You know, there are all kinds of people in this country, some of them Democrats, elected Democrats who say, "We need to see all these pictures from this prison, from the Abu Ghraib prison. Need to see them! We want to see every sordid detail because we have a right to know! American people need to know what's being done in their name. We want to see them. All the sodomy. We want to see those light sticks." Have you heard about this? Have you heard about...? What are those light sticks? I can't think of the name of them but some prisoners were apparently sodomized with these light sticks. Now, remember when a cigar was used in the Oval Office? "Heeeey, it's just sex! It's not going to get in the way of anybody leads and does their job. There's nothing here." Now all of a sudden we've got to see all these pictures. All right. Will these same people who are demanding to see every photo and every video from the Abu Ghraib prison, demand to see the Al-Qaeda video? Will they demand that it be shown, the beheading of Nick Berg? I'm just asking. Just asking. Will they be consistent?"

And then there are all those pseudo-journalists out there whose job it is to mislead people:

http://www.dailyemerald.com/vnews/d...7/409bbfc0d5b00

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The media industry has been infested by the rise of pseudo-journalists who go against journalism's long tradition to serve the public with accurate information, Los Angeles Times Editor John S. Carroll told a packed room in the Gerlinger Lounge on Thursday. Carroll delivered the annual Ruhl Lecture, titled "The Wolf in Reporter's Clothing: The Rise of Pseudo-Journalism in America." The lecture was sponsored by the School of Journalism and Communication. "All over the country there are offices that look like newsrooms and there are people in those offices that look for all the world just like journalists, but they are not practicing journalism," he said. "They regard the audience with a cold cynicism. They are practicing something I call a pseudo-journalism, and they view their audience as something to be manipulated." In a scathing critique of Fox News and some talk show hosts, such as Bill O'Reilly, Carroll said they were a "different breed of journalists" who misled their audience while claiming to inform them. He said they did not fit into the long legacy of journalists who got their facts right and respected and cared for their audiences.

Now the trick is, to find out how he went from detention in an Iraqi police station to the hands of a group linked to al-Qaeda...

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Originally posted by Coup Vlad wins. Flawless victory.

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Originally posted by DaveSZ Some have speculated there is some kind of conspiracy to take the heat off the prison abuse scandal, but I'm not sure if I believe that or not.

you dont?

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Originally posted by Shamez214 you dont?

you do?

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i am very sceptical of any and everything that goes on in this world. VERY sceptical. to the point where i really can't say what i think without being looked at like a maniac

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Originally posted by vtec junkie How many of you seen this on the news or the paper??? Islamic militants beheaded an American who was seeking work in Iraq. They filmed it, and its been all over the internet. They said it was in retaliation for the mistreatment of Iraqi detainees at the Abu Ghraib prison. The man was identified as Nick Berg.....he was 26 and from the Philly area. Im really getting sick of picking up the paper everyday and reading about more and more troops and Americans dieing over there. I couldn't even eat lunch today after reading this shit. The United States has offered $10 million for imformation leading to the capture or killing of Ahmad Fadhill al Khalayleh....the man that killed Berg. Im to the point where im about to go over there and kill this fuck myself......whos down with me???......I know vlad has my back. oh and on a personal note: screw bush

AAron and I got you covered in this dept.... Iraq looks like a possibility before the year's over for me....

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good luck brent! please don't be a rambo, i don't want to see your picture with thumbs up next to a naked iraqi

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Now I been sick of this president since 9/11 because everything is terrorism there and here.He just won't stfu. I swear I felt like the only one who voted for Al Gore in 2000. Things would have been great with him .Now I see most of you TA's are sick of him or just don't like him. Well I suggest you fuckin do something now. Please go vote for John Kerry atleast. This Iraq war was stupid but what is done is done. Now we need to worry about them coming back asap. And last month was was the highest killing of American Soldiers . This month seems to bring other problems. These people civilains who go to Iraq and try to fix buildings,power outlets,running water should indure any type of danger which is so fucked up.


I mean they go to Irq and try to fix up the place. I am so sick of these Iraqis, Yeah we took Saddam Hussien down but shit atleast they can express there self more now. The biggest problem is just not Al-Queda but there are so many terror organzations gropus that have moved in to Iraq. We got people coming from Iran,Sriya, and other parts just so they can kill. So messed up and I can't really see republicans point of veiw,I just can't nothing has really comeout of this war.Actully its not even a freakin war Iraqs Army ha ha ha .


I just hope things change around November.

Operation Get BUSH OUT OF OFFICE

Funny, my journalism teacher's husband wants to put a big sign on their lawn that says "Supprt our troops, vote Bush out." I wonder if she's agreed to do it yet or not

I watched the video because my boss wanted to see it after hearing some claims being made by people that it wasn't real. I was more than apprehensive about watching it because I really wasn't in the mood to see something so graphic. My boss walked away during the middle of it. I watched the entire thing...it was on my computer and I was sitting right in front of it. I really can't find the words right now to comment on how that made me feel. I can imagine that it will take hours for the knot that is in my stomach to subside.

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Originally posted by Galapidate Funny, my journalism teacher's husband wants to put a big sign on their lawn that says "Supprt our troops, vote Bush out." I wonder if she's agreed to do it yet or not

How about, "Support the troops, vote for one!"




Latest Bush approval rating is at 44%. That's getting into Carter terrirotry.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004...ain617087.shtml

There would be little joy in Bush losing for me (other than relief), because he's led our country into a real tragedy.

What upsets me the most, is that we had the world on our side after 9/11:

http://www.september11news.com/InternationalImages.htm

He blew it, and now the world hates us.

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Originally posted by DaveSZ The US government actually held Berg for days prior to his killing without trial or attorney. Some have speculated there is some kind of conspiracy to take the heat off the prison abuse scandal, but I'm not sure if I believe that or not. Family of Executed American Angry with U.S. Govt. Wednesday May 12, 2004 By Jon Hurdle PHILADELPHIA (Reuters) Family and friends of the American civilian executed by Islamic militants are angry about U.S. government denials that their son was ever in U.S. custody in Iraq, a family spokesman said on Wednesday. Neighbor Bruce Hauser, who has acted as a family spokesman, said, "The community feels that if the government had Nick Berg in their control they should have sought to release Berg back to his home country." "I have to believe that the American government had him in their custody. The Bergs knew that Nick was in their custody and the Bergs wanted the government to release him so he could come home," Hauser said. http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle....storyID=5123275 -------------------------------------------------------------------- FBI Saw Berg During Iraq Police Detention Wednesday May 12, 2004 Berg Interviewed By FBI In Iraq BAGHDAD (Reuters) - The FBI saw Nick Berg, the American civilian beheaded in Iraq, three times while he was being detained by Iraqi police, the U.S.-led occupation authority said Wednesday. An Islamist Web site Tuesday carried a video clip of Berg's beheading, with a statement saying a group linked to al Qaeda carried it out in revenge for the abuse of Iraqis by U.S. troops. Dan Senor, spokesman for the Coalition Provisional Authority in Baghdad, said Berg had not been in U.S. custody before or after his arrest by Iraqi police on March 24. "My understanding is that they suspected that he was engaged in suspicious activity," Senor told a news conference. "U.S. authorities were notified, the FBI visited with Mr. Berg when he was in Iraqi police detention and determined that he was not involved in any criminal or terrorist activities," Senor said. "They had contact with him on three occasions." Brigadier-General Mark Kimmitt, the U.S. military spokesman in Iraq, said U.S. military police had seen Berg during his detention to make sure he was being fed and treated properly. http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle....storyID=5121419

Well, in order to quell conspiracy theories before they get off the ground:

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FBI: Agents Advised Berg to Leave Iraq AP Headlines By CURT ANDERSON, Associated Press Writer WASHINGTON — The FBI warned Nicholas Berg shortly before his disappearance that Iraq was too volatile a place for unprotected American civilians but he turned down a State Department offer to fly him home, U.S. officials said Wednesday. Berg was detained by Iraqi police at a checkpoint in the northern city of Mosul on March 24 and was released April 6. FBI agents interviewed Berg three times while he was in the custody of Iraqi police, said a senior FBI official who spoke on condition of anonymity. The agents told him he was in a dangerous place and could be harmed, the official said. A few days after his release, a U.S. consular officer offered Berg a chance to fly back to America but he declined, spokeswoman Kelly Shannon said. "He told the consular officer that he planned to travel over land to Kuwait and would call the family from there," Shannon said. Berg's family in West Chester, Pa., has said they did not hear from him after April 9. His decapitated body was discovered Saturday by U.S. military personnel. A video posted Tuesday on a Web site linked to al-Qaida showed Berg beheaded by a group that said it was to avenge the abuse of Iraqi prisoners by American soldiers. The FBI will lead the investigation into Berg's death along with military, intelligence and other U.S. agencies. http://www.latimes.com/news/nationw...itics-headlines

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