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SgtFoo
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Registered: Dec 2001
Location: Vaughan, Canada

There's a bit of info you're missing.

I ask... is this an Apple or PC??

until you answer that back....

The speed of your front side bus (FSB) is also very crucial to how fast your computer pushes files and sounds.
COnsidering your processor is a fine clock speed for producing audio via software and MIDI, I'd say your ram could be a bit more... maybe 2 GB of RAM or more. Logic is a heavy app, plain and simple.

Next.. your hard-drive(s). If your hard drives are slower than 7200RPM, you're guaranteed audio latency. anything that fast or faster, such as SCSI is the best way to go. You should also have 2 hard drives (NOT 2 Partitions on the same drive) ... where one is for all apps and OS data, and the other is for AUDIO/MIDI only.

THe last thing I can think of, is the audio driver you're using, and waht sound card you're running it with. This will vary highly if you have a bad combo. ASIO, Core Audio, DAE, are all great audio drivers, and any consumer-level audio driver just won't cut it.

I guess you need to explain that you're pushing large files, and have a ton of processing and I/O going on all at once. The next best way to compare it is with video or 3D rendering. Those apps are very processor intensive, but not hard-drive intensive at the same time, like audio production is.


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Phantax
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I understand you perfectly. But this isn't about getting a powercore.. It's about my set up now. and to say that a faster processor won't make things better can't be right. It WILL fix a bunch of my problems.

I remember my computer from the early 90's when it was a speed 66 lol. If I was producing music on that and softsynths were around back then... I'm pretty sure that my 2.4 ghz processor woulda helped me.. just a bit :/ a 4ghz processor will make production life so much easier than my 2.4. To say that it won't is a lie.

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Phantax
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SgtFoo - 7200 rpm HD ( i don't have dual drives, but i should look into it).. PC Not Mac. Delta 44 soundcard ASIO drivers.

The video guys are trying to tell me to take my computer to get it fixed. And then they say "we're just trying to save you money from buying CPU's" but having my computer that works perfectly fine sent into the shop to get fixed isn't wasting money apparently lol.

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Thunder5
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Registered: Dec 2003
Location: Underground

quote:
Originally posted by Phantax
a 4ghz processor will make production life so much easier than my 2.4. To say that it won't is a lie.


Well it might but your system might have some other bottleneck(s). Like slow hard disk drives, though that is in case if you use a lot of samples or prerecorded tracks, having 8MB cache on a 7200RPM (P-ATA)disk will do pretty well, but S-ATA disks would be better. Not to mention SCSI, but they're pretty expensive compared to S-ATA disks.

And about the powercore, it was just an example about multithreading.

SgtFoo brought up some good points.

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J.L.
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Registered: Aug 2002
Location: Toronto, Canada

buy a separate used computer (1 ghz?) and use it for the sole purpose of running some of the softsynths. I believe there is a program that allows you to use another computer to share the processing load by networking the 2 computers together... Can't find it... someone want to post the link?

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Mossy
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Registered: Dec 2003
Location: UK

so you basically want to run everything real time? I would imagine no (Desktop) system currently could do that, regardless of having top end CPU, max memory, best HDD etc...

What your suffering from is twofold imo:

1) You want software that is highley optimised for your specific CPU / sys config, which sadly no general off the shelf software will ever be. They have to cater for every system & a minimum system. Sloppy coding and general lack of dedicated resources mean software will not outperform dedicated hardware.

2) Your running specific things that kill CPU - huge pads, big real time delays / reverbs / other signal processing all vie for the CPU. As the CPU can only process one instruction at a time, the others buffer up delaying the CPU even if the CPU isn't fully utilising whilst its doing its current calculation. Granted all that happens at X thousand times per second, but when you consider running a big external studio through your software sequencer, your at the advandtage that each synth / instrument runs the process on a seperate dedicated CPU.

Yes it sucks that you cant run everything real time, but as you already said thats what offline bouncing is for. Maybe bounce half the track your happy with and work on the next sections using a couple of VSTis and you half completed wave at the same time. Either that or wait a few more years till real time complete song creation is a reality.

Oh... lastly, dont worry so much about your CPU/Memory/Latency etc etc etc - concentrate on making music. Some of the best tunes are created on a p.o.s laptop on a beach somewhere. If the ideas good, the hardware used isn't so important!

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