no probz

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Originally posted by tu_face i reckon it could be 2 things 1- 20m of wire is ludicrous, use shorter wires, it might not affect it much but its enough to fuck you off

Hardly - the signal travels along the wire at the speed of light, which is approximately 300000000 m/s. Which means along a 20m cable, the signal takes 20/300000000 = 0.0000000000305 seconds. I don't really think that's enough to notice.

To make even a noticable difference (lets say a tenth of a second) the cable would have to be 0.1 x 300000000 = 3000km, or nearly 2000 miles.

for the sake of closure...

it was the bose system that was causing the lag.

i plugged the mixer into my tv and there was no lag.

my tv's speakers aren't fantastic, but i'd rather mix
on decent speakers with no lag than on excellent speakers
with a lag!

peachy

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Originally posted by DJTJ Hardly - the signal travels along the wire at the speed of light, which is approximately 300000000 m/s. Which means along a 20m cable, the signal takes 20/300000000 = 0.0000000000305 seconds. I don't really think that's enough to notice. To make even a noticable difference (lets say a tenth of a second) the cable would have to be 0.1 x 300000000 = 3000km, or nearly 2000 miles.

ahh you got to pwning him before I did, thumbs up

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Originally posted by Rememberence_ ahh you got to pwning him before I did, thumbs up

haha

i didnt realise it would have to be 2000 miles for it to make any difference!

glad the problem is sorted anyway

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The signal travelling at the speed of light? The signal can only travel down the wire a the rate which the wire allows because of its resistance. Longer wire, no matter how short to begin with, will create signal degradation and lag. Longer wire = greater resistance.

Edit: You should leave it on the delayed system, learn to DJ fine on that, then when you spin in a club, you'll have absoutley no probelm with the dealy from the master speakers! lol

Last edited by Spin Doctor on May-21-2004 at 16:13

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Originally posted by Spin Doctor The signal travelling at the speed of light? The signal can only travel down the wire a the rate which the wire allows because of its resistance. Longer wire, no matter how short to begin with, will create signal degradation and lag. Longer wire = greater resistance.

Yes, longer wire does mean greater resistance, but that doesn't mean a lag is introduced. What it does mean is that you will get a voltage drop over the length of the wire which equates to a quieter signal. The longer wire also introduces more opportunity to pick up radio interference from for example mains cables etc.

What it doesn't do though is add any kind of a noticaeble lag. Think about a big stage set up for example, for a rock concert. The guitars, mics etc are all on long cables that go off backstage, run through amplifiers and signal processors etc, and then come back to the stage where the monitors are. No lag there, and you get cables running to 100m easily.

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You should leave it on the delayed system, learn to DJ fine on that, then when you spin in a club, you'll have absoutley no probelm with the dealy from the master speakers!

aren't there extra speakers in the dj booth with no delay?

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Originally posted by Spin Doctor [COLOR=#999999]The signal travelling at the speed of light? The signal can only travel down the wire a the rate which the wire allows because of its resistance. Longer wire, no matter how short to begin with, will create signal degradation and lag. Longer wire = greater resistance.

no. Resistance does not slow down the signal. Damn I am sick of people giving false information so proudly because they care more about sounding intelligent than actually helping someone out. Think before you post please.

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Originally posted by stevebutabi aren't there extra speakers in the dj booth with no delay?

Not all clubs do! Even some that do, don’t have powerful enough ones to give a decent sound.

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Originally posted by Rememberence_ no. Resistance does not slow down the signal. Damn I am sick of people giving false information so proudly because they care more about sounding intelligent than actually helping someone out. Think before you post please.

Right, you picked the wrong user to have a go at this morning. I got no sleep and I’m in a bitch of a mood!

Damn, I’m sick of over pretentious wankers with a holier than thou attitude prancing around like they know everything. I posted what I though to be correct information, because I though it to be correct. It was not ‘giving false information so proudly because’ I ‘care more about sounding intelligent than actually helping someone out.’ My aim was to relay my understanding of the situation, in an effort to add to the discussion, and contribute to a greater understanding of the issue as a whole. From DJTJ’s post it is evident that I got the wrong end of the stick, fine I accept that. However, if you want to prove your point in the future, take a leaf from DJTJ’s book, instead of just having a go. Think before you post please.

Thank you and goodbye.