I didn't like the way you said that -- I felt it was rude, and not particularly insightful. Even if I didn't like someone's track, I would not call it such names. What would you have done if you were to have fun with trance cliches, tell me?

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Originally posted by aspergian I didn't like the way you said that -- I felt it was rude, and not particularly insightful. Even if I didn't like someone's track, I would not call it such names. What would you have done if you were to have fun with trance cliches, tell me?

Mate sorry about that, im still a little annoyed @ everyone saying trance is a cliché

If this track was just 4 fun then cool, but it dosent sound like an improved trance sound, thats what i was trying to say. To progress trance music, i would add different elements and try mixing stlyes, like people are doing with guitars at the moment, or something along that lines.

Sorry for being a bit of a **** in that last post

--Alex

Alex, first off, please allow me to explain:

-I ENJOY trance cliches, as I alluded to above

-I am just having fun

-I have a weird sense of humor but this was NOT done in any way to make a mockery of trance. FAR from it. My respects to everyone I referenced in the track. I'm sure you could ID them all.

-I have done some other tracks with... say, more esoteric elements. Oh, this is just one track.

So, I am not the other people bashing trance. I am far from a basher. I am very deeply involved and appreciative of the style on the whole and... thanks for clarifying your part.

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Originally posted by aspergian Yes, I was! Were you?

Nope, I just remember hearing your music about four years or so ago... I've still got a lot of it on CDR somewhere in my room! Funny to see you show up here now. Love your sound.

And DJ Terraplex, I believe it wasn't meant as a criticism but rather an homage of sorts... listen to the other track for a somewhat more conventional track but remember that Torley's style is quite unique. Surely this is not bad.

Anyway, I listened to the clip of Miracles and it's really neat. Would like to hear the full version sometime.

Thank you graciously starglider!! I think you explained it better than I could. Wow, that long huh! That's cool. Thanks a lot. I've actually been lurking on here for ages but I chime in time to time. This is a place for me to learn a lot and hear insights from others around the world, some very knowledgeable experience to be learned from here. Unfortunately there are more flame wars (in Main discussion) than I'd like to see, which is quite redundant after awhile. But that's life.

All my life I've tried to hard to fit in but alas, I can only be me. Which is all I should claim to be anyway. We're all unique individuals, human beings in this boat of life...

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haha, I loved the track. Heard a lot of melodies I knew.

That sounded like a great idea coming to life. Maybe next time u can do soemthinh for rap.

Shouldn't be to hard. "Phat Bass" with some big tits and nice ass and a Mercedes in the lyrics, and ur set

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Thanks Elujin!

Haha... rap... didn't Chris Rock do one of those? Good idea.

Can't forget the MB, with the chrome wheels and whatnot, and the T&A and hydraulics... ha ha... or it could turn into "Too Many Cliches (breakbeat edition)" yikes. Let's see, it could feature:

-the weowweowWEOW "hoover" bass as heard in Hybrid
-strings or classical arrangement over breakbeats, also as heard in Hybrid
-the simple but pounding crushed acoustic kits as heard in Adam Freeland
-something from DJ Icey!
-a rapper (at 130 bpm) or a simple catchphrase repeated over and over, filtered
-stutter edits in the style of BT or Andy Page or... many other prog breakbeat tracks!
-DJ Hyper stylish acid lines
-Plump DJs squeaks beeps and coughing/laughing noises
-turntable scratching
-etc.

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haha ya, so true.

Im very new to trance, so needless to say i didn't get any of the references.
That aside, i really liked the song.
I found the intro to be a bit long, but i doubt thats really a problem.
Im trying to think of any helpful critisim i can make of the song apart from that, but nothing comes to mind.
In my opinion, almost perfect.
Oh, and i had a listen to the songs on your site, as well.
Very nice stuff.

Elujin: yuppers

Mast-of-fish: Thanks again. I appreciate it. The intro is meant to be that way, it's another type of cliche... i.e. an exaggerated bar-count lead-in. I hope you enjoy your continued adventures into trance and beyond. Thank you very much.

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honestly i didn't like the track at all. maybe this is your style but sounds way too cheesy. i can see that you wanted to put together a collection of cliches but what's the point of it?

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It's my style, and one of many styles I do, paranoik0. Thanks for listening -- as for what's the point, well... there have been a lot of great other things done in trance. This, to my knowledge, allowed me to express myself uniquely. "Way too cheesy" is EXACTLY what I'm going for, because it makes you ask questions, like:


1- why cheesy?
2- why is cheese a bad thing? (cheese the food is certainly not)
3- why the stigmas and terms we attach to fun?
4- can a cliche ever un-cliche itself?
5- why is something now cliche, once something fresh and so daringly new?


Even if you didn't like it, maybe it made you laugh or consider something else. Sometimes I have been prone to take trance too seriously, and then some days, I just zoom back and look at the big picture, and I'm like WHOA... *smiles*

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