hey djshan, if youve not got anything constructive to say, then dont say anything, i obviously got the denon's because i think there the best ones for me and my budget, if ive had more money, i'm sure i would of got the 1000's, personally i think the denon 3000 are better than the pio 800's, because of the sampler, hotstart, next track reserve and mp3 capability.

You're a tool! Believe me, you don't want to use a BPM counter as your crutch. If you're going into it with that attitude, you're better off not having one in the first place. Honestly, I have to admit that it can be somewhat helpful, but I only tried out some friend's CD decks w/ BPM counters after learning on my own turntables how to mix, so I knew how to do it by ear and all. If I didn't, then I'd be relying like hell on the numbers, and that's really no way to go. You'll thank yourself a couple years down the road when you're in some DJ competition and the guy you're competing against is screwed because he doesn't know how to mix without some "help".

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Originally posted by jwear2004 You're a tool!

Hey, everyone starts somewhere.... don't be so quick to judge.

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Originally posted by jwear2004 You're a tool! Believe me, you don't want to use a BPM counter as your crutch. If you're going into it with that attitude, you're better off not having one in the first place. Honestly, I have to admit that it can be somewhat helpful, but I only tried out some friend's CD decks w/ BPM counters after learning on my own turntables how to mix, so I knew how to do it by ear and all. If I didn't, then I'd be relying like hell on the numbers, and that's really no way to go. You'll thank yourself a couple years down the road when you're in some DJ competition and the guy you're competing against is screwed because he doesn't know how to mix without some "help".

you are right in what you are saying, but theres no need to be as harsh!

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Originally posted by jago hey djshan, if youve not got anything constructive to say, then dont say anything, i obviously got the denon's because i think there the best ones for me and my budget, if ive had more money, i'm sure i would of got the 1000's, personally i think the denon 3000 are better than the pio 800's, because of the sampler, hotstart, next track reserve and mp3 capability.

ok sorry, i hope u enjoy ur denons as much as i enjoy my cdj800's.

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Originally posted by tu_face you are right in what you are saying, but theres no need to be as harsh!

Sorry if I came across as harsh. I was just kind of joking around. In the second half I tried to explain my position a little bit better. The first part was kind of the stock response that everybody gives. Heck, like I explained, I used a BPM counter on a friend's CDJs once, it was just after I had learned to play on my own using vinyl records. As it was, the CDJs took a little getting used to anyways, but I know that if I personally went from beat counter to no beat counter, I'd probably have a rougher time of it later on. Sorry for the rough impression. Cheers.

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Just as some added assistance, maybe download some mixing software... that way you can use mp3's and distinguish between beats and at the same time train your ear. When you get really good, you'll learn to differenciate between melodies.

As for, "how do I know how fast Im spinning?" Honestly, you dont need to know. When I mix, I start off slow and work up to a tempo that I like, usually marked by a certain track, and work the tracks around that tempo.

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explain yourself vlad, what mixing software? i'm in the process of getting a decent pair of headphones, and actually i've even began to beatmatch, well a little anyway, mixed with train tracks, not bad though for a beginner. What i have problem with is when one goes out, i panic take my headphones off my head and try to match the beats again by listening to the speakers, which doesnt seem to be working.

Something like... Traktor or Final Scratch. They are DJing programs and you can use mp3s to mix.

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Originally posted by Coup Vlad wins. Flawless victory.

jago, try this... when making a mix, know the first 5-6 tracks that you are going to be mixing. The 6th track that you know will be your tempo setter and you work all the remaining tracks that you will play around that tempo.

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Originally posted by Coup Vlad wins. Flawless victory.

nar much prefer to try and beatmatch, with alot of practice, i'll get there, just need guidance and lots of practice.

cool, r u saying that your mixers go between 5-6 tracks of the roughley the same tempo, then the next 5-6 can be a different tempo and so on.