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If you're loitering, causing trouble, and not shopping, you're not welcome, as you shouldn't be in any place of business. If you're 16/17, and you're shopping, they're not going to give you grief.

Go read the website again. It explicitly says that if you are under 18 you MUST be accompanied by an adult over 21. It does not say "to loiter you must be accompanied"

This is the part that i object to as well as the "dress code". The rest of it is perfectly acceptable and allows for the proper treatment of trouble makers.

I just have a problem with policies or laws that treat everyone as a criminal or as an idiot before they even have the chance to commit the act.

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Originally posted by Your Mother I'm guessing alot of the people from Buffalo trek down to Windsor when they turn 19. Can you verify or refute that??? Or perhaps they skip Windsor and head to Toronto since its closer?? I'm really curious. Downtown Windsor is getting so over-run by Americans every Thursday, Friday, and Saturday night that its getting out of hand. I don't mind them coming over to have a good time, but alot of them are just completely disrespectful and always starting fights and just looking for trouble... acting like they own the fucking place. Regardless, Do you not find it somewhat weird how certain big cities in the US have nothing much to offer for younger crowds, while others seem to have too much. Every time I passed through Sacramento I ask myself, "how could I ever live in this city if I wasn't at least 40?" The city just always seemed too quaint and cozy. -Your Mother

You're thinking of Detroit-Windsor not Buffalo-Windsor

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Originally posted by ShadoWolf You're thinking of Detroit-Windsor not Buffalo-Windsor

Actually, I'm thinking of Buffalo-Windsor... I grew up in Windsor so I know that most of the people come from Michigan and Ohio. I was just curious if people from Buffalo make the trip down to spend the weekend in Windsor and take in the night-life. Windsor has become the place to party for Americans who are 19 - 23 and I was curious if it stretches as far as Buffalo.

-Your Mother

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Originally posted by Jayx1 Go read the website again. It explicitly says that if you are under 18 you MUST be accompanied by an adult over 21. It does not say "to loiter you must be accompanied"

1. Trust me, I live here.
2. Boa is 21 and over.

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Originally posted by Your Mother I'm guessing alot of the people from Buffalo trek down to Windsor when they turn 19. Can you verify or refute that??? Or perhaps they skip Windsor and head to Toronto since its closer?? Regardless, Do you not find it somewhat weird how certain big cities in the US have nothing much to offer for younger crowds, while others seem to have too much.

I've never been to Windsor, and the only friends of mine from Buffalo that have, have gone there with my TO crew. I'll make it sometime this summer...probably near the end when Mark goes there to spin.

American cities are touch and go. Seriously, the only ones that I would really visit for a good party time are those that have an electronic music scene. Not just for that aspect, but because it's established that the cultural and musical diversity spans to wide ends of society.

Taken from their website:

Attention Parents:

Effective September 6, 2002,Walden Galleria is instituting
a Parental Escort Policy on Friday & Saturday
Between the hours of 4pm 'til close



Anyone under the age of 18 visiting Walden Galleria must be
accompanied by a parent or guardian 21 years of age or older



One parent or guardian (21 years or older) is permitted to supervise
up to (5) teens. Teens must remain within the company of their
parent or guardian. Acceptable proof of age will be: Driver's License,
State/Provincial non-driver ID. Military or college ID, Passport or Visa.


I rest my case...

And what does Boa have to do with a mall?

Jay, WTF will it take for you to understand that I LIVE HERE AND SEE HOW IT IS ENFORCED.

And Boa is 21+, yet many who are <21 are let in, because they are not the "typical <21",

aaah sorry i was under the impression that you were saying this policy didnt exist.


But that begs a further question. Why post such controversial policies on a website and then not even bother to enforce them?

Jay, let's call it an "explicit deterrant". Just letting kids know they can get in trouble is implicit enforcement enough, and it also gives parents leverage - "jay you little prick, stay out of that fucking mall, because if you get arrested, i'm taking away your dildo collection!"

as for way it is not always enforced, well...have you ever been let go for speeding?