i have nothing against someone playing all of their own music

BUT

they have to have a diverse enough sound to pull it off. part of what makes live sets great is that there is so much music out there that you can pick and choose wonderful tunes that go together perfectly and move the set along.

i don't think most producers are talented enough to pull it off. most do not produce enough tracks, and of those that they produce, they aren't varied enough in sound. i think overall its a bad idea to play just your own tunes...but dj's should compliment their sets with tunes they make.

Yes and it is sad, take a look at the tracklist forum threads of all these deejays (kenneth thomas, endre and many others). All playing the same ASOT/Markus Schulz Prog Garbage and no wonder no one books people as often, because THEY ARE NOT ORIGINAL. Armin is single handly dragging trance down the path to mediocre results and he is making a fortune. With idiotic deejays trying to play sets like him, check the oslo nights (look at all that crap). Deejays are not original anymore and the lameass wannabes are trying too hard to get in. If you like ASOT, shame you on!

I'd never thought about it in the sense that DJs spinning their own work was making them more like artists. Especially live sets broadcast on live radio I thought it was shameless promotion of their own work....maybe not though

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Originally posted by Floorfiller they have to have a diverse enough sound to pull it off. part of what makes live sets great is that there is so much music out there that you can pick and choose wonderful tunes that go together perfectly and move the set along.

i agree, and there arn't many that could actually pull it off.

the fact of the matter remains, if i want to see a producer playing all of his/her own tracks, it should be a live PA (that shows more "validity" for producers, which is what we are talking about here), and certainly not 8 hours long!


i personally cant stand it when i see a DJ playing a set, and he/she plays all their own stuff.. it doesnt take much thinking and it lacks diversity. obviously they should play 1 or 2 of their own tracks (if the style fits with the djing style) as they would be stupid not to, its great promotion.

and i disagree with some of you saying that 'they all play the same tracks', thinking that that has a relevence to this topic.. what that does have relevance to, is whether or not the dj is any good in the first place, and whether or not they are one of these sheep dj's who follow what the current 'big' djs are doing

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Originally posted by torontotrance Yes and it is sad, take a look at the tracklist forum threads of all these deejays (kenneth thomas, endre and many others). All playing the same ASOT/Markus Schulz Prog Garbage and no wonder no one books people as often, because THEY ARE NOT ORIGINAL. Armin is single handly dragging trance down the path to mediocre results and he is making a fortune. With idiotic deejays trying to play sets like him, check the oslo nights (look at all that crap). Deejays are not original anymore and the lameass wannabes are trying too hard to get in. If you like ASOT, shame you on!

Amen to that.

Granted, I do like an occasional ASOT set, but I'm not an "OMG ASOT!!!1" fan.

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Originally posted by Floorfiller they have to have a diverse enough sound to pull it off. part of what makes live sets great is that there is so much music out there that you can pick and choose wonderful tunes that go together perfectly and move the set along.

I agree. Play as many of your own tunes as possible, but make sure it's diverse.

I bet Oliver Lieb could do it, maybe not 8 hours, but definitely 2, and with variation too.

Other thing is that all deejays do is play their record label tunes as well, just to make more money. I have a problem with that, not making money but forcing your tunes down someone's throat. We all know what happened to Pete Tong in 1996, he got fined for playing too many songs that he had invested interest in (really ones that FFRR owned or he had a % in the label)

I really think deejays have gone too much off the path. I mean we had superstar deejays in the mid 90's but they were more celebrated for playing records that you did not have. Now with the internet and mp3, that is not the case anymore. Paul van Dyk, Armin van Buuren, Tiesto are all deejays that the ones like me that don't enjoy anymore....but completely loved at one point. Most deejays are far too busy with things to put the effort into things anymore, I mean where is Paul van Dyk's emotional epic trancers that took the words out of my mouth. No heart, no soul in music anymore, just plain old $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$, and the music is suffering. You want to take a look at sets, look the djmixes2k sets, most of them are so similar, it makes me puke, everyone plays what armin and co do. Be yourself, find your own records. See if I was a dj, I'd be playing lesser known records that rocked, I'd be hunting for smaller releases and hammering that, it got Anthony Pappa to the A list of deejays.

i agree

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Originally posted by torontotrance Other thing is that all deejays do is play their record label tunes as well, just to make more money. I have a problem with that, not making money but forcing your tunes down someone's throat. We all know what happened to Pete Tong in 1996, he got fined for playing too many songs that he had invested interest in (really ones that FFRR owned or he had a % in the label) I really think deejays have gone too much off the path. I mean we had superstar deejays in the mid 90's but they were more celebrated for playing records that you did not have. Now with the internet and mp3, that is not the case anymore. Paul van Dyk, Armin van Buuren, Tiesto are all deejays that the ones like me that don't enjoy anymore....but completely loved at one point. Most deejays are far too busy with things to put the effort into things anymore, I mean where is Paul van Dyk's emotional epic trancers that took the words out of my mouth. No heart, no soul in music anymore, just plain old $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$, and the music is suffering. You want to take a look at sets, look the djmixes2k sets, most of them are so similar, it makes me puke, everyone plays what armin and co do. Be yourself, find your own records. See if I was a dj, I'd be playing lesser known records that rocked, I'd be hunting for smaller releases and hammering that, it got Anthony Pappa to the A list of deejays.

completely agree TTA. its all about the jewel or a tune that you find. i love to hunt for great records. i think its pathetic when people just automaticly buy records that armin or tiesto or pvd plays. i used to listen to their sets and pick maybe one or two songs that i thought where fantastic and wanted, but i don't even do that anymore.

i think we get a little too much ASOT crammed down our throut. if i had a radio show...i certainly wouldn't do it more than monthly. all of these weekly shows are too damn repetitive and i think it really takes away from the music.

fritz #1...98% of the time i cant id anything paul plays in his sets, he plays a lot of good house & prog-house, and a few thrown in techno tracks once in a while.

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It used to go like this in the late 1990's and early 2000's. Sasha would play tracks that no one had and even today, some of his tracks from his sets are unknown. Sasha used to be great because he used to play white labels that no one had and with his amazing mixing skills, he played too well. People who heard the white labels would hunt them down in record shops after he played them and most of them would have those tunes. The problem today is that deejays push them down your throat, Armin's tune of the week will be bought by 100's of sellout nobody deejay who want to sound like armin and get places. Be yourself, that's why you have Timo Maas, James Zabiela, Dave Clarke and co. at the top of the dj list because no one plays like them. That is why I rarely listen to internet radio (ets is great but most of the deejays are clones for armin and co., I have no time for that). The only radio show that I do catch on a semi regular basis is Wicked Neo's show, the old man has a unique style, hate neo if you want but at least he did not sell out.