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Originally posted by auujay Are you forgetting the fact that you are recorded the record without a pre-amp? This is key as records have certain frequencies boosted and need an RIAA curve preamp to boost them to normal line level inputs. If you are going to bypass the mixer you will still need some sort of preamplifier (unless there is some sort of RIAA cruve filter you can apply in software once it is recorded).

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Originally posted by vhx1 Yes that is true, it would be stupid to directly connect the TT to the soundcard. YOu must have some sort of amplification before the lineout connectors on the soundcard. Phono signals are at around -12 db? someone correct me if i'm wrong. But line ins are much higher

Sorry I forgot 1 detail... In order to run Pro-Tools properly, the best thing to do is use it's native hardware, rather than a foreign soundcard. I forgot about the line level requirement.. heheh...
But yea... the Pro-Tools MBox is just enough to record ANYTHING professionally... it's got 2 Focusrite mic-pres and 2 1/4" TRS inputs. That thing can give you your pre-amp before your computer... and the MBox's A/D and D/A converters are quite good, considering the price. I know the MBox with Pro-Tools LE in Canada comes to about $700. It's no-doubt cheaper for ppl in the US.

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Hey montie....if you have the moolah and want a real pro level audio I/O box that has XLR inputs, look into getting a Digi 001. A friend of mine got one 5 years ago when they were new and he loved it.

But the 1/4" inputs should cause you no loss in sound quality if they are blanaced TRS vs a standard A3M XLR.

If you are solely recording and not going to be back cueing at all you should get a belt drive turntable and a good quality Hi-Fi cartridge. The direct drive mechanism adds quite a bit of background noise into the wash.

and for all your audio ripping/streaming needs on MacOSX....visit www.rogueamoeba.com .

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When I get a new record I don't play at all it until I have recorded it to my Mac.

Here is what I do/use:

I start by cleaning the record with the Milty Pixall MKII vinyl cleaning roller. This thing gets all the dust off.

I use a Technics 1210MK5G with a Stanton 890RMs elliptical stylus.

I have a Rane 2016 MP that I use for the pre-amp. I also make sure to disable the 2016 XP (EQ) to avoid any extra noise.

From there it goes to an Edirol UA-5 hardware analog to digital converter via 1 meter balanced XLR cables.

The Edirol UA-5 USB output goes to my Mac G5 and I use Bias Peak to do the recording. I take care to make sure I don't peak/clip anywhere in the chain. After I have the track recorded in Peak all I do it normalize it.

Once you had an original copy you can start tweaking with it. I never try to clean the song. If you have a high quality setup your really shouldn’t need to. Usually I just re-EQ it and edit it around.

Have fun with it...

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there is this hardware-thingie you could buy for ~1000 swe kr .. it connects to the USBport and seems to be very easy.. havent tried it out myself.. =)

i have my MK5 hocked up to my stereo (100 watt) thin into my computer. but when i play it on the recording program it is WAY TOO LOUD. so i turned the input meater all the way down and it is still distorted becouse it is too loud.

how do i fix

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a soundcard that has RCA ins/outs? m-audio delta 1010 LT. it should be around $300 brand new although you can ebay it for less. 8 analogue RCA ins/outs, S/PDIF in/out (coaxial optical connection that your mixer probably supports) and midi in/out. its pretty much the same as the delta 1010 except all the connections are RCA, not 1/4" TRS jacks and you dont get the rackmountable breakout box. i believe the 1010 LT also has 2 mic preamps aswell. you wont use all those ins straight away. in either case, you can never have too many ins/outs.

also, the signal from a phono is -10dB with a 14dB difference between mic and line level. the idea is to pre amp the signal up to line level then bounce it down in soundforge or whatever app you use to record from a line in. recording directly from source without a pre amp just means you have to amplify the signal post recording which will also increase the level of the ambient noise in the recording. not good.

on my current sound card i have a line in and a mic. what u just sead was very smart. but i don't understand. so do i need a diffrint stereo or what?

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what soundcard have you got? some soundcards you can set the input to record at mic or line level. on my delta 1010 theres a button on each input. pushed in its -10dB. out its +4dB. most home stereos and hifis operate at -10dB.

also, are you connecting them like this:

mk5s ----> left + right input on hifi.

left + right output on hifi ----> line in on soundcard.

turn the volume down on the hifi. and turn the record level down in windows or in the software supplied with your soundcard. then raise it till its audible without distorting.

anyone know of a good USB soundcard with an digital in (I have the Denon DN-X1500 that has a digital out)...and that's relatively cheap?....also having analog rca in/output would be nice too...

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Originally posted by Dj Ricky H anyone know of a good USB soundcard with an digital in (I have the Denon DN-X1500 that has a digital out)...and that's relatively cheap?....also having analog rca in/output would be nice too...

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i've got the dn-x1500 too and my laptop's stock soundcard isn't cutting it.

depends on what digitial in/out. there are several types.

the first is digital aes/ebu. if you look on the back of your mixer its this big kind of 3 pronged socket. should have a male and female type. thats a true fibre optic digital link. i dont know any entry level pro audio souncards that support this type of connection. the MOTU HD192 has alot of these but its a proper 192 khz recording interface - i.e. it probably costs more than your car.

the second type of digital in/out is S/PDIF or sony/phillips digital interface. this is a coaxial connection that alot of soundcards support - ie m audio delta 1010/LT, MOTU 828 mkII etc.

you can get soundcards fairly cheaply that have a few TRS 1/4"/RCA analogue ins/outs and an S/PDIF connection. you can get 1/4" TRS to RCA connections easily and cheaply anyway so i wouldnt worry about that.

if you have a picture of the back of your mixer i could tell if it does. i know for a fact that DJM500 (and i suppose DJM600) has aes/ebu but i didnt check for S/PDIF. i assume it does however. S/PDIF looks a bit like an RCA connection only it has an outer rim on the female socket.

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Originally posted by Derivative depends on what digitial in/out. there are several types. the first is digital aes/ebu. if you look on the back of your mixer its this big kind of 3 pronged socket. should have a male and female type. thats a true fibre optic digital link. i dont know any entry level pro audio souncards that support this type of connection. the MOTU HD192 has alot of these but its a proper 192 khz recording interface - i.e. it probably costs more than your car. the second type of digital in/out is S/PDIF or sony/phillips digital interface. this is a coaxial connection that alot of soundcards support - ie m audio delta 1010/LT, MOTU 828 mkII etc. you can get soundcards fairly cheaply that have a few TRS 1/4"/RCA analogue ins/outs and an S/PDIF connection. you can get 1/4" TRS to RCA connections easily and cheaply anyway so i wouldnt worry about that. if you have a picture of the back of your mixer i could tell if it does. i know for a fact that DJM500 (and i suppose DJM600) has aes/ebu but i didnt check for S/PDIF. i assume it does however. S/PDIF looks a bit like an RCA connection only it has an outer rim on the female socket.

I have the coaxial type connector....I was thinking in getting the Terratec Phase 26 usb....little more than my budget but well worth it in my opinion....

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