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Scottaculous
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quote:
Originally posted by sandstorm03
btw, i like tiestos "cross-fade slam" It may not be the best classic "mix slow in, mix slow out". But if your playin stuff 140, i think tisto does a good job keeping the energy up, unlike some. Even if it sounds a bit harsh at times. More djs need to attack mixing a bit more imo, and take a few chances. It may not sound good sitting @ a computer, but it owns in a club.


Or you can get some skills like PvD and swap the low frequencies :P Same energy without the sloppy offbeats.

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sandstorm03
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yea pauls a magician, i dont get it esp when hes on, its like wtf. But once in a while a slam is needed.


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DjJade
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yea, i have liek 50 records, so my selection is a bit limited, and dont want to get bored of them. Its slowly growing though.



btw, i like tiestos "cross-fade slam" It may not be the best classic "mix slow in, mix slow out". But if your playin stuff 140, i think tisto does a good job keeping the energy up, unlike some. Even if it sounds a bit harsh at times. More djs need to attack mixing a bit more imo, and take a few chances. It may not sound good sitting @ a computer, but it owns in a club.


thats right but i guess im probably not gonna be playing in a club and my cds are genearlly geared towards a more listening crowd since im a bedroom dj. i tend to take chances in my room and stick with what im sure soudns good for other people to hear


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Scottaculous
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Back to your original question though...

With practice, you can beatmatch faster than the track ends. Even if it's a track you've never heard before. Looking at the grooves of the vinyl will help you decide how fast you can mix out. And you're right... there are more than one way to mix. The smooth seamless mixing is a standard but once in a while doing a few tricks as you're mixing can sound really good.

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Nemesis44
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As the others said. Just practice that's all it is.

Worth mentioning that Tiesto is worlds number one for many reasons but his mixing skills are not one of them. There are tons of DJs out there that pass him in skill (His own words too) but being a DJ is about so much more than mixing.
It get's frustrating sometimes though. I haven't trainwrecked in public for about 6 years now. Worlds number one did it on a DVD sold world wide (Yes... we all know the mix.... Traffic... he he, and don't anyone try and tell me that it still sounds ok because it doesn't he he). I doubt if you would have hear PVD or Sasha do that although I have heard Digweed really f*ck it up once.

Jules, Oakenfold and Robert Smidt can really suck but there are a ton of DJs out there who are pretty much flawless everynight.

(And let's face it, if John Peel can get in to the top 250, you have to question who the f*ck votes on that chart anyways. For those who don't know, John Peel is an old geezer who used to play on radio one in the UK. Mainly Punk and similar music).

Just keep practising and you will work it out. Get the beat matching right and then get creative after. Remember that beatmatching isn't what it's all about even if it's fun.

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razzi
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Or you can get some skills like PvD and swap the low frequencies :P Same energy without the sloppy offbeats.



i love doin that, its so fun! i drop in the bassline of gabry fasano - reactor. (http://www.discogs.com/release/52921)

its a great bassline and when you drop it into another track but letting the hit hats keep going, it sounds tight and gives and awesome effect.


damn i love djing


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yea swapping the low frequencies is tight at times, esp when its stronger then the previous track.


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Scottaculous
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yea swapping the low frequencies is tight at times, esp when its stronger then the previous track.


Or faster bassline

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could you do that with the faster kick though?


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Scottaculous
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quote:
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could you do that with the faster kick though?


By faster kick, you mean the incoming track has a faster tempo? No, because there are other elements of the track that remains such as hi-hats. You can still hear the wreck.

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yea thought so...

it would be cool if music was layered so that you could just take out the bass. Or vox, and so on... Maby it will make me millions .


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I've been spinning for about 6 months now and fall under the "Ferry Corsten School of 64s". He has a way of mixing that just baffles me. Like in his Mixed Live set, he mixes perfectly into Mesh-Purple Haze. I have no clue how he did it becasue the bass line of that track is kinda weak. He's amazing to listen to.

I definitely need to tune my matching and then its on to the EQ. I think THAT is where the true magic happens.


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