Whatever just beat the germans, they are always that lucky i cant imagine and then they say they are best

17-1

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Holland wins 4 - 1

Rudi Voller gets a red card

Can't wait to watch this game

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first half

1-0 Sneijder - shot from just outside the penalty area
2-0 van Nistelrooij - header from a corner
3-0 van Nistelrooij - following an abysmal backpass from German defender

second half

4-0 Cocu - van der Vaart shoots, Cocu scores in rebound
5-0 van der Vaart - a corner flies straight in, Kahn left kansloos
6-0 van Nistelrooij - flying header (assist by Sneijder)
7-0 Makaay - shot from 30 metres
8-0 Makaay - penalty (Kahn gets a red card and breaks his leg)
8-1 Seedorf - shoots into own goal because he pities ze poor Germans

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tuff one to call.

Both teams on poor form.

probably 0-0.

3-1 for Holland, 10 hours left!!!

The Netherlands - Germany 1-0

First 90 minutes: Boring
Injurytime: Counterattack, scored by "Das Torphantom"

This will be a good match, 3-1 to the dutch

I dont think there'll be that many goals. but i wouldnt complain if there was

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I really hope the Dutch will win, I'd say they make a 1-0.

But i fear it will be as usual: Germany plays very poor (as they did in the last few games), have a lot of luck (as they always do) and win with a late goal or with the help of the referee...