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Originally posted by Robert Filo & Peri and Subsphere don't use reason, I'm not sure if Envio (still?) does. So funnily enough half the of the artists you mention have this 'cheap regressive reason sound' don't use Reason at all... I still use Reason.

hehe

goooooooooooooooooodddddddddd answer robert!!!!!!

and i don't think robert has a 'cheap regressive reason sound'

at all!

i think he has great sounds! very unique and professional!

btw the sounds Filo & Peri make are awasom!

i dont give a fuck what software/hardware someone uses if his music is good. at least creativity counts.

I'll tell you what is it. The guys with no talent and no balls to just sit down with whatever sequencer they have an actually put their lazy asses to work and make a goood track are the ones who keep bitching about sound quality.

Robert makes insane tracks, Out There and Spiral are classics. Cause he concentrates on the music not the bullshit tech talk on what sequencer delivers higher qualoity sound. Go to a high fidelity stero dealership and sit in one of those rooms with those 50 000 dollar speakers and amplifiers. look at the little booklet of cds you can try out, mostly jazz, orchestral stuff live recorded stuff because listeners want the most realistic live experience possible. trance is played on massive sound systems at raves, quality between reason and logic will not be noticed.

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Originally posted by The Designer But this doesn't mean that the sound will be bad because "professionals" cutoff any frequencies above 14khz. So

14khz seems a little low.. the human ear can hear very clearly between 14-18khz.. past 18khz it starts getting quiet.. I never cut below 17khz

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haha file and peri just have such a ambient sound to it and ehhh not all tracks done inr eason are shit but most are. not shit as in melody but shit as in indiviuality of the synths. think of it this way many people complain trance all sounds the same many people go ohh thats jsut becuase your closed minded when in fact most trance does sound teh same because most producers use the same synths and many many producers that would be cheezey enough to make pop radio probly use the genric trance sound.... now think about it reasons been out for years has thousonds of people that use it maybe not use it entirely but use it maybe here and there for tracks.. thats why you can tell a reason sound just like you can tell a virus sound or a jp-8080 sound... point is spend as much time as you spend writing your track as you spend working your synth... or just learn cubase and use vstis so you can furthermore make your sound more yours and not everyones...

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Originally posted by ZxZDeViLZxZ or just learn cubase and use vstis so you can furthermore make your sound more yours and not everyones...

When you actually manage to say something like "just use VSTi's and all will be perfect and the sound will be yours", i really wonder if you know what a VSTi is.

Wow does a VSTi (i.e. Z3ta+) make the "sound more yours" ? It will sound like Z3ta.
Its not any different than programming "your own" sounds in Reason.

And dont get me started on sound quality and some VSTi's.

Dont get me started on Cubase vs. Reason's workflow/sequencer either

Cheer

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Originally posted by ZxZDeViLZxZ haha file and peri just have such a ambient sound to it and ehhh not all tracks done inr eason are shit but most are. not shit as in melody but shit as in indiviuality of the synths. think of it this way many people complain trance all sounds the same many people go ohh thats jsut becuase your closed minded when in fact most trance does sound teh same because most producers use the same synths and many many producers that would be cheezey enough to make pop radio probly use the genric trance sound.... now think about it reasons been out for years has thousonds of people that use it maybe not use it entirely but use it maybe here and there for tracks.. thats why you can tell a reason sound just like you can tell a virus sound or a jp-8080 sound... point is spend as much time as you spend writing your track as you spend working your synth... or just learn cubase and use vstis so you can furthermore make your sound more yours and not everyones...

HAHAHAHA..joker .

here is a story

i started with vst and fl, my sounds were the same..

Reason changed that. need me to say more?

you must be thinking omfg?@#@%$@!#^#%& my story wrong? not really BUT! i couldn't create my own sound wiht vst..to many fucking knobs and the result sucked not worth my time..

Reason on the other hand is easy, and the results are awesome.

SO THE MORAL OF THIS BULLSHIT STORY.

If you can't handle a vst or Reason then your sounds will be the same.

AS FOR REASON BEEING OUT FOR YEARS AND BEEING USED BY 100000 PEOPLE..

ISN"T THAT THE SAME FACT FOR VST NOW?

geez.

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Originally posted by Octanesyco Greetings. My name is Casey. You can call me Moose. -Moose

Who cares? All that is necessary is that people still pump out good tracks with whatever they use. The method is not more important than the result.

I've been told that Reason automatically compresses tunes on export.. is this true? If so that could be what's causing the sound defects I've noticed...

Still I guess it's up to the people who use it whether they can make good use of it... not saying it's necessarily limiting

who cares?

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Originally posted by Robert Filo & Peri and Subsphere don't use reason, I'm not sure if Envio (still?) does. So funnily enough half the of the artists you mention have this 'cheap regressive reason sound' don't use Reason at all... I still use Reason.

go robert
i'm not using Reason indeed Instead, I use Orion platinum and Nuendo 2.0 and lots of VST instruments.