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rev
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Registered: Feb 2003
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funny how everyone is starting to sway their votes based on how the candidates are coming across, not their platforms

very very against Conservacrap program, Liberals ok. thats basically it for this election... but then again, is it ever any different? Just no charismatic party leader this year

I bet if the liberals had DOn Cherry at the helm, they would sweep!

Arnie started a good trend, should all be celebrities now since no one really cares about politics


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Old Post Jun-16-2004 22:53  Canada
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ShadoWolf
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Registered: Apr 2002
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Re: National debate

quote:
Originally posted by Lumps
Anyone watching this??? I swear if Martin is elected, I'm gonna dropkick someone - he's a fuckin idiot.


AGREED!!!


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Old Post Jun-17-2004 01:08  United Nations
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Lumps
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Registered: Jun 2003
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quote:
Originally posted by malek
no no, fuck YOU.


Ok.

But don't get me wrong, what I hate are all the people there talking shit about their goddamn sovereignty. They tarnished my views about Quebec long ago.

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malek
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Registered: Nov 2001
Location: Montréal

quote:
Originally posted by Lumps
Ok.

But don't get me wrong, what I hate are all the people there talking shit about their goddamn sovereignty. They tarnished my views about Quebec long ago.


ok so you meant, fuck sovernists... thats a bit different, no?


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Registered: May 2004
Location: Calgary, Canada

On Election day, I won't be in Calgary to vote, so i went to the office in downtown Calgary today to vote. I'm just sick of all these old fogeys (well, harper's not that old - but still..) who have these platforms that are based on what Canada may or may not have needed 15 years ago. Today is totally different and I think we should shift our interests into other things.

Harper's probably gonna get in. But either way, I supported the Green party this time around. Yup, voted GREEN. I know they may not make it. But over the years, I have faith that people will start listening to them and taking them seriously. They have a lot of good ideas that I liked. But i know not everyone agrees. Well, at least I voted. I really wish more people would vote. Damn it, I can't believe how many people I've met so far that aren't voting. LAME! VOTE!!


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Old Post Jun-17-2004 06:19  Canada
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Wrench
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Registered: May 2004
Location: Calgary, Canada

quote:
Originally posted by Fil
Harper may seem convincing but that's just him being a sly bastard. He's not getting to the point on many topics and he wants to be more like the US. I, frankly, don't ever want to be more like the US. Sure Martin is struggling to keep a firm hold on his ground but I say him or Layton over Harper any day. So I'm still undecided.

Oh, by the way, the Bloc is a joke.


Yup..Bloc IS a Joke. I mean come on..do you seriously think you're going to get elected with an attitude like that? Why would anyone give the keys to this country to a lunatic who's probably all bent out of shape about the rest of Canada and will separate it later on. Fuck that. You just know if the Bloc ever got in that they would do everything in their power to benefit citizens of Quebec while leaving the rest of the country to rot and giving it the shaft.

The other idiot I saw that was running for the "Christian Heritage Party" here's another nimrod.. Trying to meld Religious beliefs with state. In a country as multicultural as Canada...how the fuck are you going to get votes when you're pushing anti-gay laws, and basically trying to make the bible the new Charter of Rights and Freedoms. Fuck off and get real. In this day and age, you're never going to win any respect or votes if you're beakin' off about how gay people are hurting themselves and the rest of society. I'm not gay, but I stand by thier right to do whatever the fuck they want. Why is someone else's private life in their bedroom any of our business? It's not. If they want to marry, shit, they can get married, who cares? But that's just my opinion. I think there are a lot bigger problems in the country than gays wanting to marry. Good thing this party doesn't really stand a chance..i'd hate to see a party like that have power. Pfff...Tea Bag In-The-Ocean WEAK!

No wonder I voted Green. Seems like those are the only guys who actually have an idea of what this country really needs. Too bad that asshole Harper's probably gonna get in.


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Registered: Nov 2003
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The conservatives are good for ontario... not for the nation. When and if the conservatives or the NDP become federalist.... everything will goto hell in a handbag.


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.montecarlo.
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Registered: Jun 2001
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in case anyone missed the debate...

coverage
http://www.cbc.ca/canadavotes/theca...ersdebates.html

opening statements
video: http://media.cbc.ca:8080/ramgen/new...ening_debate.rm

leadership, trust and accountability
http://www.cbc.ca/canadavotes/thecampaign/debate1.html
video: http://media.cbc.ca:8080/ramgen/new...debate_whole.rm

canada's place in the world
http://www.cbc.ca/canadavotes/thecampaign/debate2.html
video: http://media.cbc.ca:8080/ramgen/new...debate_whole.rm

social policy
http://www.cbc.ca/canadavotes/thecampaign/debate3.html
video: http://media.cbc.ca:8080/ramgen/new...debate_whole.rm

health care
http://www.cbc.ca/canadavotes/thecampaign/debate4.html
video: http://media.cbc.ca:8080/ramgen/new...debate_whole.rm

closing statements
video: http://media.cbc.ca:8080/ramgen/new...osing_debate.rm

Last edited by .montecarlo. on Jun-17-2004 at 18:58

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Special_K
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Registered: Apr 2001
Location: Vancouver

Geee is sure hope Canada gets thats multi billion dollar missle defence system. Cause you know, we really need it.

I got an idea why dont we fuck our own sovereignty and just become the 51st state.

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Widget
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So from a non-Canadian's point of view, it was a bit like watching a bunch of school kids in the park. "Whoever talks loudest, gets heard". Admitedly I watched about 5mins of the English debate, but it was watching 4 people with 0 respect for each each other. They'd ask each other a question and then try and shout down their answer, though half the time they'd answer a totally different question.

It's also pretty strange that I've yet to hear what the Liberals actually stand for. They're so scared of the Conservatives, that all they're doing is negative politicing, trying to scare people with stories about what the Conservatives might do, instead of focusing on what they, the Liberals will do.

The Conservatives keep having to argue against the picture that the Liberals are painting of them.

The Bloc and the NDP, no one actually seems to take them that seriously.

Though this is just my impression from watching a small amount of the debate and reading the newspapers.


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Registered: Nov 2003
Location: East and West, Canada

quote:
Originally posted by Widget
It's also pretty strange that I've yet to hear what the Liberals actually stand for. They're so scared of the Conservatives, that all they're doing is negative politicing, trying to scare people with stories about what the Conservatives might do, instead of focusing on what they, the Liberals will do.


this is a good point, i think the liberals and thier supporters assume that because the have been in power for as long as i can remember, everyone knows and understands what they stand for.

This also touches on an interesting idea that people will simple want the liberals held accountable and not punished for thier errors (most blatant being fiscal mismanagment).
People are scared for the drastic changes that a slide to the far left or far right would trigger, thus will vote for what they already know and hope that it gets better. I agree with this.

The liberals only problem is thier current lack of transparency. i believe a transparent liberal party as well as empowered government (at all levels) would be the strongest solution for canada. Gradual change and transparence. simple.


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Old Post Jun-17-2004 21:57  Canada
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Fil
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Registered: Apr 2004
Location: Edmonton

quote:
Originally posted by Wrench
Yup..Bloc IS a Joke. I mean come on..do you seriously think you're going to get elected with an attitude like that? Why would anyone give the keys to this country to a lunatic who's probably all bent out of shape about the rest of Canada and will separate it later on. Fuck that. You just know if the Bloc ever got in that they would do everything in their power to benefit citizens of Quebec while leaving the rest of the country to rot and giving it the shaft.



The funniest part is they will never win. It is actually impossible. The only people that can vote for the Bloc are Quebec citizens and they do not make up enough of the whole population of Canada to see them in power. Unless, of course, no one chooses to vote anywhere else in Canada and all Quebec citizens vote for the Bloc, but that is unlikely. I say shut up and stop running for a useless cause.

Old Post Jun-17-2004 22:31  Canada
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