to answer your question: Is Reason enough?
the answer is yes.

Reason allows you to create the best of tracks with a good quality.
If you master the tracks outside of reason with like say Wavelab, your practicaly there.

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Originally posted by Timothy Why don't you just download some demo's of all the programs and check which you think is the best for you. Don't listen to these guys, but to your own feelings. Try to find out which program fits you best.

Exactly. The program doesn't do the tracks for you - if you're no good at producing then it doesn't matter if you use the cheapest possible software or millions worth of studio equipment, your stuff will still suck.

We all have our own preferences and most of the people here like to push their opinions as the God's truth. The only way you'll find out is to test all the programs yourself and seeing what fits you best.

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Originally posted by Mr.Mystery And how is that, exactly?

1. Without a keyboard controller you WILL lack creative control over your music and will be extrelemely limited.

2. You are locked into reason's architecture. Not expandible, no plug ins, only 2 softsynths and samplers, missing lots of effects.

Right. Thank God I'm an ignorant idiot then so I don't have any problems over creative control.

I'm done with this topic. What's the point in arguing stuff with someone who doesn't even use Reason.

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Originally posted by Mr.Mystery Right. Thank God I'm an ignorant idiot then so I don't have any problems over creative control. I'm done with this topic. What's the point in arguing stuff with someone who doesn't even use Reason.

Dude, chill, I wasn't saying that. But to answer the original question you would need to have at the very least a keyboard controller if you want your music to sound somewhat human (velocity/aftertouch).

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Originally posted by FuzzyGreen Dude, chill, I wasn't saying that. But to answer the original question you would need to have at the very least a keyboard controller if you want your music to sound somewhat human (velocity/aftertouch).

tbat sux, i guess my music sounds alien..i have no keyboard .

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Originally posted by Octanesyco Greetings. My name is Casey. You can call me Moose. -Moose

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Originally posted by FuzzyGreen 1. Without a keyboard controller you WILL lack creative control over your music and will be extrelemely limited.

I don't think so. The producer is the one who feels it's limiting or not.

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2. You are locked into reason's architecture. Not expandible, no plug ins, only 2 softsynths and samplers, missing lots of effects.

How about cubase and fruity architecture?? I don't like fruity's. Cubase is more difficuilt then reason.
I can plug anything into a long line. The architecture is easy to understand. everything is around the sound module.
Two synth are enough to fill your track with sounds.
1 synth for filtering noise and waveforms for your sounds and 1 with granular synthesis. Nothing can beat the moving sounds you get whit granular synthesis.

Effects got better with 2.5. What effect do you miss??

wow this totally is getting to be some hate in this bitch.. ok now it really doesnt matter what software you use id go with what someone suggested id say find someone that has cubase and reason and fruity like a friend and play with them full version demo wont allow you to do shit good i find demos rather limiting in most all aspects. now id suggest you honestly buy a midi controller id suggest the m audio oxygen line to start with oxygen 8 is good one to start with. and then get some nice vstis which have been stated in here along with some nice vsti effects also a thread with them listed in here. then use cubase or fruity i find cubase to be easy aslong as you just read the menus and use common sense and if anyhting theres are the f1 key. id also suggest you get a good firewire soundcard one that can do 24bit 96khz atleast i personally am looking at the maudio firewire cards as i have a maudio desktop soundcard and am very pleased with it.

honestly tho all that are extras i know people that dont use controller or even good soundcards and can create the most crazy good shit. it really just depeneds how hard your gonna dive into it when you first start. so check all three out and from there decide if your going to get heavy into it or can wait to purchase the controller and audio card.

on a side note ill add that i strongly suggest fruity loops 4.5 and some good vstis and vstfx. and also get cubase because with fruity you can load the program as a vsti inside of cubase which will allow you to do shit in both fruity and cubase and will ease the learning curve some. so take your pic best advice would be dont listen t o people that just are argueing this thread shouldnt turn into an argument i was hoping for my own intrested itd hold some good information that someone would post. smoke weed and produce trax nothings more enjoyable

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Robert Nickson has made better tracks than 99% of us ever will, and he still uses reason. So yes, Reason is enough if you want to make trance (I'm not a reason user btw).

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Originally posted by FuzzyGreen Dude, chill, I wasn't saying that. But to answer the original question you would need to have at the very least a keyboard controller if you want your music to sound somewhat human (velocity/aftertouch).

I'm chilled and I understand where you're coming from, actually. It's just that when you've used Reason long enough you kinda learn to work your way around the shortcomings (so to speak).

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I'd just like to stick up for Mystery and so that he makes some sensationally good tracks for the equipment he uses. Living proof that it takes talent and not equipment to deliver the goods.

Like I said in one of my other posts. It's nice to have fancy equipment - makes your job easier and to some degree, more fun. But that's all it is.