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webmeister
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Registered: Mar 2002
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Originally posted by DJAntSmith
I wouldn't consider it electronic dance music at all.

You can produce a country and western song with samplers if you wanted, but if you did you wouldn't label it as EDM.

It's not what the song is made with that categorises the song, it's how it actually sounds.


Hip-hop is EDM.

Country and Western you might not consider EDM if it was made with samplers, but that's because C&W has a long history of being played on guitars, violins, drums and other physical instruments.

Hip-hop has never really used physical instruments, it's always been electronic.


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Icesotope
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did you hit your head or something?....

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DJAntSmith
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quote:
Originally posted by webmeister
Hip-hop is EDM.

Country and Western you might not consider EDM if it was made with samplers, but that's because C&W has a long history of being played on guitars, violins, drums and other physical instruments.

Hip-hop has never really used physical instruments, it's always been electronic.


I disagree. I would still argue the point that it's not what instruments the song in question is made with, but what the song sounds like.

Think about it. Even though Hip-Hop may not be made with standard musical instruments, you would not describe it as electronic.


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Lira
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Registered: Nov 2001
Location: Brasilia, Brazil

quote:
Originally posted by DJAntSmith
I wouldn't consider it electronic dance music at all.

You can produce a country and western song with samplers if you wanted, but if you did you wouldn't label it as EDM.

It's not what the song is made with that categorises the song, it's how it actually sounds.

quote:
Originally posted by webmeister
Hip-hop is EDM.

Country and Western you might not consider EDM if it was made with samplers, but that's because C&W has a long history of being played on guitars, violins, drums and other physical instruments.

Hip-hop has never really used physical instruments, it's always been electronic.

In addition to this, there's also the fact that hip-hop share the same root as techno (eletro) and it relies heavily on synthetic sounds - country music has its sound based on guitars, folk instruments (?) and acoustic percussion, for example.

edit: If you want to use the umbrella genres, keep in mind that...

techno < electronica (which covers the "exotic genres" such as trance and d'n'b) < edm (which covers the genres that are danceable and made with the help of electronic equipment) < em (ambient and noise also fit here in case you argue you can't dance to these genres ) < music in general.


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Lira
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did you hit your head or something?....

Yes, I fell off the bath when I was young.


That's how I got into trance music


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dJohn
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quote:
It's not what the song is made with that categorises the song, it's how it actually sounds.


Not really. So then how do you describe progressive trance/house?

quote:
Think about it. Even though Hip-Hop may not be made with standard musical instruments, you would not describe it as electronic.

WHy wouldn't you? Electronica derives it's name from it's origin...it's the stereotypes and preconceived notions of trance,house, techno jungle etc... that divide it and file under electronica.
In an informal sense, it woulnd't be electronica, but technicality and definitive wise, it's just as electronic as trance.

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NinetyNinety
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Man, that song is really old...


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