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Originally posted by Rukahs no, thats not what i'm saying. i'm stating that what your original post said was probably an article in a news paper asking our parents what they are going to do now that CD's were going public (1983).

ah ok...i'd agree hehehe

Things move in waves. If you like the music on your vinyls, then keep 'em. That's a generalization but it's true. Or at least, rip them properly to WAV/MP3 and then archive them that way as the physical media deteriorates over the years. Things come back as variations on a theme.

Laptop Symphony'ing a la BT live sets is the future. So is Final Scratching for those who prefer the tactile nature of vinyl. But the vinyl often carries so many memories which it that cannot be replaced with $$$ alone.

I say keep your vinyl treasures, unless you can absolutely part with them. Once they're gone, they're kinda hard to get back (esp. some of those rare albums)

Vinyl sound is so often adored because of a distortion of audio quality -- not because it is a purist reproduction

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Keep in mind that dusty record collections from the last generation don't sell because most of what is on them has been reproduced in CD format. I guarantee that all the productions of the Beatles exist in ones and zeros, available for purchase.

I'm not sure that will happen with much of the electronica already on vinyl. I think vinyl may go to the wayside in future years -- a separate topic of debate in itself -- but the collections we already have will retain about as much value as they would were there no CDs at all. I don't think that there is enough of a market for anyone to bother moving old releases over into a CD format. Meaning that if you want some track from 1997 you're going to have to go online and search for the 12", keeping the value of records about the same as they would be without CDs.

What doesn't get covered by this theory are significant, classic tracks that are likely to get a CD release, often bundled with new remixes. But if you wany anything outside the big anthems, I would expect you'd still have to put out cash for the record, keeping their value up.

i share the same concerns of floorfiller, i can see people with huge collections wanting to sell them and no collectors to buy them...

after all, cd is still going to replace vinyl one day. right?

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with CD turntables and abeltone live, i do think vinyl will slowly go the way of old yeller in DJ use.
i mean if you look at it, they are completly inconvenient. you could carry the same amount of music in several crates of vinyl in a wallet of CDs or in a laptop in your backpack.
not to mention its kinda pricey to press vinyl so all the unreleased tracks go strait to CD or get played off your laptop.
and of course having CD and Laptop gives the DJ alot more freedom when it comes to being a producer.
after several years i think vinyl will start to take on an antique value tho. eventually if htey are very scarce they gotta be worth something. just look at records that are out of print.
and to me they have a sentimental value. i'd be happy to show my kids these round discs that have music on them that i used to party to when i was a lad.

Dunno, I don't think it will die in the near future, coz djs still use vinyls. Seen airwave spinning a while ago, and was really surprised how few vinyls he used though.

To answer the initial question, I don't really think that vinyls will lose their value. Vinyl is a very unique format and has stood the test of time for many decades. They may, of course lose value with the vinyl albums of the 60's, 70's, and 80's, but I don't think so with dance music/DJ vinyls. All the major albums of those decades pretty much have been re-released on cd so the records could be replaced. Since the dance music scene is more exclusive than the mainstream, vinyls should stay in demand.

I think this is the case for many of the older or more obscure dance records. I bet many of the tracks on these records will never see a cd re-release. So, unless all you want to do is play the newest of the new tracks that Armin hammers each week, which are becoming more available on cd, DJ's will almost need records so they can play those older tracks. Ripping older records to mp3 is viable, but could be a hassle for some people.

Sidenote - Would anyone happen to know the current ratio of vinyl pressings to cd pressings of tracks in the DJ world? If there are any industry stats on this, I think it would be very interesting to know.

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I think vinyls are more popular in European countries where electronica music is played the most.

Vinyl is the only way to go if you want the newest tunes I think. You can't find a brand new trance release on CD single can you? Only the more popular releases that have been hammered around teh globe get a CD-Single release imo.

Btw, I'm spending alot of my $ on records and a new turntable soon

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MP3s will kill vinyl eventually, I'd say in the next 10 years. I wouldn't be surprised if CDs go by the wayside in that time frame also.

Think about it, CDs and vinyl are bulky and hard to carry. Plus both formats are fragile and prone to scratching/damage of the physical media.

As of today you can buy a 1GB flash drive the size of your index finger for less than 200 bucks. That will hold 500+ songs in MP3 format.

Within 10 years you will be able to buy a similar drive probably even smaller than what we have today that holds 100GB of data for 200 bucks. You will just plug it into your car stereo/computer/DJ equipment and you will have 5000+ songs at your disposal.

And I'm not even taking into account advances in music compression technology that will enable CD quality music files to be much smaller than they are today.

Flash memory devices will change data and music storage significantly.

What to you want to carry? 4 crates of records, 500 CDs or 1 flash drive no bigger than the remote used to unlock the doors on your car.

Broadband internet connections and flash memory devices will eliminate the need for CDs. Why pay a record company $17 for a CD when you really only want 2 of the songs which you can download in 5 minutes, copy them to your flash memory device and be on your way.

Wont be long before Ipods and other MP3 players are equiped with wireless internet connections so you that if you are on the bus and feel like listening to a song you just go download it right there from your MP3 player.

MP3 will never kill anything in the dj world due to their compressing properties that make them sound like shit in big systems. Now for the usual guy that just wants to listen to some eminem on his stereo, even 128kbps does the trick.

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Today man, but think about the computer you had 10 years ago. Probably some crap ass 386. How big was your hard drive? Like 100-200MB. MP3s did not even exist.

Within 10 years one of two things will happen:
1. Technology will allow near lossless compression of music files
2. Huge capacity storage devices will be very small and cheap making file compression not even necessary

When I said MP3, I didn't really mean MP3 because that format will be obsolete in 10 years. Something new and better will be out.

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Originally posted by paranoik0 MP3 will never kill anything in the dj world due to their compressing properties that make them sound like shit in big systems. Now for the usual guy that just wants to listen to some eminem on his stereo, even 128kbps does the trick.

yeah i see what you mean, MP3s will never be there imo, but some other new digital format could do it

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