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BIKKEL
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Originally posted by shockwavedj
The first option: 2 subgroups with a compressor each one. You can also compress separately, but I think that the main intention to compress several tracks together is to "integrate" them, to achieve a "consistent" sound. Soft sounds are not benefited by compressing them with fast attack (necessary for kick and bass) since it'll give a kicky feeling that is not recommended for hats. Think of it like two paths: one for low-freq, punchy percussive sounds, and the other for soft, mid-hi-freq sounds (from open hats to leads or chords).
Anyway compressing is not always a good idea as you are loosing dynamic range (a mix should be able to show both low levels and high ones).

PS: Be carefull when working with groups on Cubase SX 1, since groups are not latency compensated you could get a unpleasant surprise. Compressors like C1 add a little delay that is not perceived with soft attack sound, but very noticeable with fast attack sounds like kick, bass, claps. Possible solution: add a third group where you send all tracks not sent to the first 2 groups. In this track add the same plugin but not working (dont use bypass mode), or simply, estimate the delay and add a delay compensator plugin.


Wel im using reason but what i did was every channel of redrum (1 till 10) i plugged in to the audio merger and from there to the compressor.
In the redrum i had: kick,clap,hihat,rimshots and snare.

But it still doenst side right, it doenst sound like it's one part it sounds more harsh and like it all indivual sounds.

So i was wondering i would comprees kick+clap appart from the rest maybe it would have better results!

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shockwavedj
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I stopped making my songs in reason and progressively migrated to cubase (firstly rewiring then... bye bye reason). I love the sound of the reason synths (mainly substractor) but the compressor is so annoying that finally I abandoned it. I really admire people that get the control over dynamics in reason... it's an awesome task.
Compressing kick and bass together let's you obtain a compact sound where at the end of kick the bass grows and fill that gap. Including clap, this can mask and push kick down, but sometimes this gives you an interesting rhythmic sound.


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BIKKEL
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quote:
Originally posted by shockwavedj
I stopped making my songs in reason and progressively migrated to cubase (firstly rewiring then... bye bye reason). I love the sound of the reason synths (mainly substractor) but the compressor is so annoying that finally I abandoned it. I really admire people that get the control over dynamics in reason... it's an awesome task.
Compressing kick and bass together let's you obtain a compact sound where at the end of kick the bass grows and fill that gap. Including clap, this can mask and push kick down, but sometimes this gives you an interesting rhythmic sound.


Ill try to do the following
Kick+bass=compressor 1
Clap+Hihats=COmpressor 2
Bongo's+rimshots=Compressor 3

or do you have a better idea?

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shockwavedj
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That's right.
The most important thing is that you find the way you feel more comfortable. There's no only one way to do things... Try it by yourself!


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BIKKEL
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That's right.
The most important thing is that you find the way you feel more comfortable. There's no only one way to do things... Try it by yourself!


Yes but i did thoirst all the channels to the compressor and than i had the feeling there was somethign missing, it didnt sound right.

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Sirocco
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i dontuse drum maps or gm maps of any kind. i dont use samplers of ay kind. i just import into the sequencer and position the percs etc


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Massive84
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i only compress clap and kick in reason..never saw any use for other instruments in reason.


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BIKKEL
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Last couple of days i tried to figuring out this drumtrack.

http://members.lycos.nl/eendducky/drumloop.mp3


In the beginning i thought it was

K---K---K---K
----C-------C
--RR--RR--RR-

K=kick
C=Clap
R=Rimshot

But when i tried it myself the rimshot didnt sounded as it should be.

So know i think it maybe can archieved with lot of delay on the rimshot and have it like this:

K---K---K---K
----C-------C
--R---R---R--

I would appreciate it if someone could say if im right and if not could you please help me how to make this.

Thx in advance!

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