Registered: Jan 2002
Location: Oldenzaal, Netherlands
Listen to Nem, he's old and wise... (well he's wise anyway, don't know about his age, don't even dare to ask him... )
Seriously though, mixing can be very basic, but can also be very complicated. It depends on how and what you want to mix.
Right now, don't worry about harmonic mixing.
Start focusing on beatmatching. Beatmatching is (easily said) getting two different tracks at the same speed and than throw the intro of the second over the outro of the first.
If you can not keep them at the same speed for 10 seconds, you don't have them beatmatched properly. Beatmatching is all about tempo, not about phrases.
Jun-29-2004 18:09
Nemesis44
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Registered: Aug 2003
Location: Brighton
quote:
Originally posted by djxtension
Listen to Nem, he's old and wise... (well he's wise anyway, don't know about his age, don't even dare to ask him... )
LOL, yup he is old too... Well for a TA anyways. Turned 33 last Saturday.
Originally posted by zizack
Totally disagree with you. Not even close to the most important. The kid is just starting out, beatmatching and phrae matchign are by far the most important things he needs to know about.
Well, of course.I agree beat and phrase matching has to be perfected 1st. And when I started out that's all I worried about. And should be all a beginner worries about for 12 months maybe..
But a while ago after a gig, many a person came up to me and commented that lately my mixing had improved greatly... saying it seemed to flow better.
And I think I know why.... mixing in key.
I'm not an expert at this yet either, but it sure does take your sets to the next level when you get it right.
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Jun-29-2004 23:59
DJ Kibon
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Registered: Nov 2001
Location: Edmonton, Alberta
quote:
Originally posted by Nemesis44
I agree that Harmonic mixing may not be the most important thing to think of when you are starting out. But he is correct with regards to the reason why it sounds so much better when they do it.
The simple fact is that PvD, Armin and Tiesto amongst many others, mix harmonically and that's what makes them sound really good. Harmonic mixing is just the science behind musical flow. Beat matching is in actual fact such a small part of what it's all about and the greatest skill is knowing how keys work together.
There will be those who disagree with me on this count and that's fine but most of them only disagree because they don't know how to do it.
I would still say to the younger DJ that maybe he should focus on matching but he should still be mindful of what works with what.
Cheers
Nem
I have to agree with this fully as well.
Harmonic mixing may not be something to focus on when you start out (since you have to spend the majority of your time just getting the beats matched and such), but it is very, very important. Harmonics were pretty easy for me due to my musical background - I don't even think of things in terms of key, just what sounds "right" and "wrong" when mixing.
I've heard a couple of amateur DJs playing livesets that clearly didn't think about harmonics, and it definately makes you grind your teeth and wince when things clash harshly enough.