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S1Spawn
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Registered: Apr 2004
Location: Miami, FL

Hey wats up everyone i'm a newbie at mixing and i learned that with most tracks i find it easier to match the beats by cutting off the lows on the mixer and listen to the highs and mids...using the high hat and snare drum as my guide...by first matching with one ear in the phones and another out then listening to both channels together to ensure the match is complete.....


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D Dubya
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Registered: Mar 2004
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I don't know if its easier, but it is definitely more fine tuned.


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3xx3r7
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Practice...pratice...practice....


Did I mention practice???

If you do it enough times, you will be able to differentiate two basslines audibly and differentiate their bpms. Which will help you to adjust the bassline of an incoming track.


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tu_face
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Registered: Oct 2000
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quote:
Originally posted by S1Spawn
Hey wats up everyone i'm a newbie at mixing and i learned that with most tracks i find it easier to match the beats by cutting off the lows on the mixer and listen to the highs and mids...using the high hat and snare drum as my guide...by first matching with one ear in the phones and another out then listening to both channels together to ensure the match is complete.....


i find this does sometimes help. i find it does vary from track to track though..

unfortunatly i was forced to do it like that with my old mixer for over 6 months (gah, beatmatching some of my techno records was very hard) as the cue signal fucked up and cut out all the bass :/

re: 3xx3r7's post, i would never, ever ever, ever consider beatmatching with a bassline. if what you meant was the kick, then yeah fair enough, but using any synth line (the word bassline refers to the bass notes in a tune) to beatmatch is plain idiocy when there is something with a much easier structured tempo going on under it, i.e. a beat.

but yeah, beatmatching is all down to practise


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S1Spawn
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Registered: Apr 2004
Location: Miami, FL

quote:
Originally posted by tu_face
i find this does sometimes help. i find it does vary from track to track though..

unfortunatly i was forced to do it like that with my old mixer for over 6 months (gah, beatmatching some of my techno records was very hard) as the cue signal fucked up and cut out all the bass :/

re: 3xx3r7's post, i would never, ever ever, ever consider beatmatching with a bassline. if what you meant was the kick, then yeah fair enough, but using any synth line (the word bassline refers to the bass notes in a tune) to beatmatch is plain idiocy when there is something with a much easier structured tempo going on under it, i.e. a beat.

but yeah, beatmatching is all down to practise



I totaly agree u can't do that with all tracks.......and your right ....practice...practice...practice.....Its always important to listen to the song as u mix it not hear it...u have to concentrate...


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DjSway
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Registered: Nov 2003
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I remember when I first started, I wanted to throw my equipment out of the window!
If anything, sounds silly but concentrate and focus on the kicks first, imagine the kicks in your head. Your mind will know the beat even though you think you don't. If anything else fail use the Force!

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Shudder
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i've been practicing since january on and off. the most i'f had without practice has been a week at most, but im getting to the point where beatmixing is almost second nature. it really hard and confusing at first bbut you'll get used to it. i still have trouble fine tuning the records cause some have to be pitched 100% accuracy and i have trouble with those. not i gotta work on not touching the record while changing pitch.


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3xx3r7
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quote:
Originally posted by tu_face
i find this does sometimes help. i find it does vary from track to track though..

unfortunatly i was forced to do it like that with my old mixer for over 6 months (gah, beatmatching some of my techno records was very hard) as the cue signal fucked up and cut out all the bass :/

re: 3xx3r7's post, i would never, ever ever, ever consider beatmatching with a bassline. if what you meant was the kick, then yeah fair enough, but using any synth line (the word bassline refers to the bass notes in a tune) to beatmatch is plain idiocy when there is something with a much easier structured tempo going on under it, i.e. a beat.

but yeah, beatmatching is all down to practise


Sorry I meant kicks. I am not good with terminology.


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YellowG555
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Registered: Mar 2002
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You could also try getting 2 of the same vinyl and playing both at the same time. Start with both at 0 pitch and get the beats aligned and you will hear what it sounds like when the beats are beatmatched.


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R.j.
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Registered: Feb 2004
Location: L, TX, USA
Re: Re: beatmatching

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Originally posted by Dirk W.
All right, first of all, you are not really beatmatching. Right now all you are doing is lining up the beats. Beatmatching takes a lot more than just that. When the beats are lined up, then move the pitch slider faster or slower.... If the incoming record is slower than the one playing, speed it up. If the incoming record is faster than the one playing, slow it down. Re-align the beats. Keep doing this until the beats are in sync for a continuous minute or so. After a while, you won't keep having to align the beats because you will know almost exactly where to put the slider right when you put on the incoming track. From then on out it will be little adjustments (which are in your case done using the pitch bend to "push" the cd faster or "slow" the cd down).

Hope that helps.



been practicing with this answer, and it works for only practicing for about a month, i can do 'so-so' beat matching, thnx!


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_-MIl0
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Registered: Jul 2003
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theirs a good book out their that teaches you everything about beatmatchin and harmonics, i think its called "how to dj properly" 4get who its by but theirs also a version of it out printed by point blank which is a condensed version of it but still gives you the basics


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