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ShadoWolf
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Registered: Apr 2002
Location: State of Trance

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Originally posted by d!abolic
I had no idea this was possible until this very moment, but i just realized that your neverending political threads make me sick. You seem like a cool guy, but i'm seriously considering adding you to my ignore list because it seems like every second thread i see is one about politics, usually by you.


WHat about all your cock-realted threads?


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ShadoWolf
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Registered: Apr 2002
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As to voting, I say use it or lose it. Vote or lose citizenship.

I like Australia's system of compulsory voting actually.


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drgoodvibe
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Registered: Mar 2003
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quote:
Originally posted by ShadoWolf
As to voting, I say use it or lose it. Vote or lose citizenship.

I like Australia's system of compulsory voting actually.



yes but the argument can be made about how democractic compulsory voting is.


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Old Post Jul-02-2004 13:55  Canada
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mikester69
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Registered: Oct 2003
Location: Toronto/Montreal, Canada

Voting is still a responsibility of Canadian citizenship, but theres no punishment for those who dont vote. Come on, at least spoil the ballot if you dont like anyone. I just ranted at my friend for an hour because he didnt vote.

Old Post Jul-02-2004 18:49  Canada
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TheDanLevy
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Registered: Jun 2004
Location: Toronto, Canada

quote:
Originally posted by drgoodvibe
yes but the argument can be made about how democractic compulsory voting is.


well if we had regular voting day or just had any voting day declared a holiday then wouldnt you think it fair to expect people to vote? if not they get taxed an extra amount that year, its millions of easy dollars for the 1st couple of votes for any government which is good and if you have the whole day off can you really not get off your ass and vote? the polling stations are usually (at least in toronto) pretty damn close to your house
thats another reason i am for regular voting though, they could declare a voting day in the middle of june every year, so that it is warm out and people are more likely to go out in numbers
and i have to ask all the people against compulsory voting....what if (lets go out on a limb here) people really stop caring and one election, except for the candidates, nobody voted? what then? anarchy? dictatorship maybe?


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Callie5
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Registered: Mar 2004
Location: Pickering

Hey.. if ya didn't vote... you have NO right to complain.. that's the way I look at it

Old Post Jul-02-2004 19:12  Canada
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discojoe
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Registered: Aug 2001
Location: Ottawa Canada

quote:
Originally posted by ShadoWolf
As to voting, I say use it or lose it. Vote or lose citizenship.

I like Australia's system of compulsory voting actually.


I dont agree with this. Consider this

People are different. People have different interests. Some are interested in politics and make a concerted effort to follow the issues. These people think about, evalutate and understand the implications of thier votes. But, of course, not everyone is like this. This is especially true, more and more, in developed countries where voting differences have little impact on peoples day to day lives. Forcing people to vote isnt going to make them interested and able to make an educated decision. So I ask whats better for a country: Having few politically educated people voting, or diluting those educated voting power by forcing non interested, non motivated voters to choose.

One of the problems with democracy is that non politically educated voters seem to be far more swayed by emotion and less willing to appeal to reason and search for accurate information. There are countless examples throughout history but the best one that comes to mind right now is south america. I am living in Chile right now and I have travelled through some very politically unstable countries. I just passed through Bolivia where there is a referendum to completely nationalize the country's natural resource industries stop exporting their resources. (this is what people have explained to me anyway). The country has been fucked around alot and the people have a legitimate reason to be pissed off. If passed, the vote (whether right or wrong) would likely shatter the delicate economy and ruin whatever progress they have gained in the past 15 years. But the vote is extremely popular with many in the lower class because its being pushed by unions and interest groups using fear and anger as an extremly powerful weapon. Whether you agree with the vote or not Knee-jerk reactions like this fueled by emotional campaigns are extremely detrimental to developing country's growth. The decisions needed for improvement almost never have immediate results and if politicians are getting kicked out every two years there's no way they are going to be motivated to make the proper decisions.

Democracy isnt perfect. People are human and make bad choices. It makes a politicians job much harder to sell to a hundred thousand educated when they know and understand the facts than 5 million who are swayed by platitudes and unreasonable promises. Forcing people who have no interest to make a choice doesnt do anyone any good. Ideally everyone would look into the issues and make an educated vote. But thats not going to happen. If you dont know who you are voting for and why you are voting, dont vote. It only hurts the country.

Old Post Jul-02-2004 20:47  Canada
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Jayx1
Prime Minister of TOTA



Registered: Feb 2003
Location: The Socialist People's Republic Of Canada

I agree but thats why i say there should be mandatory voting with a none of the above option. Then at least you have to make an effort to not care, be uneducated or whatever other excuse people use to not vote.

Old Post Jul-02-2004 22:00  Canada
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dnmr
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Registered: Mar 2004
Location: Toronto!!!

they should let you vote over the net or something....its the whole going down their part....im way too lazy

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Jayx1
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Registered: Feb 2003
Location: The Socialist People's Republic Of Canada

^^^^^^^^ is the reason why we need mandatory voting

LOL

Old Post Jul-03-2004 02:25  Canada
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