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Originally posted by occrider Damn. You know for a second there I thought I was making an informed opinion on all the evidence available, but your poorly constructed ad hominems were so convincing that they've tipped me in the other direction! Alright jackass, I'll humor your argument for a second. Despite the fact that the video has been widely distributed across the world and remains relatively undisputed, much like the other Al-Qaeda tapes, and despite the fact that my source that you don't "believe" is one of the VERY SAME SOURCES being used by your conspiracy theory web site (you didn't even look at the sources on that page did you?), let's ignore logic for a second and completely disregard the tape and the fact that Al-Qaeda has long ago stopped denying responsiblity for the attacks. Despite that, we still have intelligence gathered from those with Bin Laden on the day of the attacks: http://edition.cnn.com/2002/US/09/1...sama.exclusive/ sweet nice job Or statements from Al-Qaeda operatives: http://english.pravda.ru/main/2002/09/10/36235.html etc., etc., etc. Sorry your jew theory didn't work out, but I'm sure something bigger and better will come along that you can use against them. Thanks for the amusement.

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nice job..where is the thread creator

First of all it's not my 'Jew theory' and I never said Jew's were the cause of 9/11 mofo!! That was simply there because there is a paragraph in that article stating that Osama Bin Laden denied 9/11. Secondly, tell me if any of you jackasses have fukin read the so called article presented by Al Qaeda or can speak Arabic that you know for a fact that Osama himself is responsible for 9/11. It is not a conspiracy theory a lot of people where overjoyed when 9/11 attacks happened. Just like I am sure a lot of Americans where overjoyed when the first bombs fell over Iraq killing many innocent people. I don’t back Osama bin Laden the only thing is I’m not that stupid that I would allow my government to go on a killing spree on false pretenses. And yes many of the tapes sent by al Qaeda any average Arabic speaking person could tell you the difference in dialects in the tapes sent. So one day he's Egyptian the other he’s Lebanese. If you can kindly refrain from posting anymore CNN please do I’m going to barf.

Ok you guys don’t get my point I’m not even saying he isn’t the cause of 9/11 all I’m saying is if the war on Iraq was a big eye opener for Americans you guys can clearly see now that your government cannot be trusted. So before you go on and have yourself a shit fit wouldn’t you think it’s a good idea to maybe look for a more credible source than CNN. From reading your articles you can clearly all of these methods of evidence would never hold up in court. Anyone can make a tape, anyone tamper with it.
If it’s not Osama its someone else and you have a whole lot of people who are completely innocent, who the US Army has not a fragment evidence to use against them detained in Guantánamo Bay.

And that's just wrong.

so you don't trust anyone?

kthxbye

wtf, it was Saddam and his buddies all the time, Osama was never there.. thats a theory.. it was saddam and the evil of axis, we must MUST get rid.. .. the WHOLE middle east is evil EVIL EVILLLL WE must NUKE THEM!! we MUST STAND FOR FREEDOM!!! WE LEAD THE FREE WORLD!!!

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Originally posted by LiquidX wtf, it was Saddam and his buddies all the time, Osama was never there.. thats a theory.. it was saddam and the evil of axis, we must MUST get rid.. .. the WHOLE middle east is evil EVIL EVILLLL WE must NUKE THEM!! we MUST STAND FOR FREEDOM!!! WE LEAD THE FREE WORLD!!!

who told you that?

stupid thread|

i think the COR is sneaking in here...

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Originally posted by biznology stupid thread| i think the COR is sneaking in here...

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these noobs must be stopped

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Originally posted by hausmusic First of all it's not my 'Jew theory' and I never said Jew's were the cause of 9/11 mofo!! That was simply there because there is a paragraph in that article stating that Osama Bin Laden denied 9/11. Secondly, tell me if any of you jackasses have fukin read the so called article presented by Al Qaeda or can speak Arabic that you know for a fact that Osama himself is responsible for 9/11. It is not a conspiracy theory a lot of people where overjoyed when 9/11 attacks happened. Just like I am sure a lot of Americans where overjoyed when the first bombs fell over Iraq killing many innocent people. I don’t back Osama bin Laden the only thing is I’m not that stupid that I would allow my government to go on a killing spree on false pretenses. And yes many of the tapes sent by al Qaeda any average Arabic speaking person could tell you the difference in dialects in the tapes sent. So one day he's Egyptian the other he’s Lebanese. If you can kindly refrain from posting anymore CNN please do I’m going to barf. Ok you guys don’t get my point I’m not even saying he isn’t the cause of 9/11 all I’m saying is if the war on Iraq was a big eye opener for Americans you guys can clearly see now that your government cannot be trusted. So before you go on and have yourself a shit fit wouldn’t you think it’s a good idea to maybe look for a more credible source than CNN. From reading your articles you can clearly all of these methods of evidence would never hold up in court. Anyone can make a tape, anyone tamper with it. If it’s not Osama its someone else and you have a whole lot of people who are completely innocent, who the US Army has not a fragment evidence to use against them detained in Guantánamo Bay. And that's just wrong.

I thought the whole point of this thread was that Osama didn't cause 9/11, as per your first post. Now you are debating your own first post.

You don't like anyone else posting CNN links but you go ahead and make this thread based on a single uncredible link yourself. If the argument has no basis to begin with then why bother to refute it with credible sources. Are we trying to convince you that Osama committed 9/11?

We invaded Afghanistan because of Osama's attack on 9/11, not Iraq. Iraq is a different issue. Whether Afghanistan is better off is a different topic, it is clear to the entire world that Afghanistan hosted the taliban, who illegally took control of the country, and harbored and supported Al Qaeda including Osama Bin Laden. No link is needed for this. As for proving Osama committed the acts from the words in his mouth the only evidence is the translated tape from November, 2001 in which skeptics will just say its doctored by the USA anyways.

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Originally posted by Q5echo who told you that?

sarcasm perhaps? heh.. just placing some spice to the thread.

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Originally posted by hausmusic First of all it's not my 'Jew theory' and I never said Jew's were the cause of 9/11 mofo!! That was simply there because there is a paragraph in that article stating that Osama Bin Laden denied 9/11. Secondly, tell me if any of you jackasses have fukin read the so called article presented by Al Qaeda or can speak Arabic that you know for a fact that Osama himself is responsible for 9/11. It is not a conspiracy theory a lot of people where overjoyed when 9/11 attacks happened. Just like I am sure a lot of Americans where overjoyed when the first bombs fell over Iraq killing many innocent people. I don’t back Osama bin Laden the only thing is I’m not that stupid that I would allow my government to go on a killing spree on false pretenses. And yes many of the tapes sent by al Qaeda any average Arabic speaking person could tell you the difference in dialects in the tapes sent. So one day he's Egyptian the other he’s Lebanese. If you can kindly refrain from posting anymore CNN please do I’m going to barf. Ok you guys don’t get my point I’m not even saying he isn’t the cause of 9/11 all I’m saying is if the war on Iraq was a big eye opener for Americans you guys can clearly see now that your government cannot be trusted. So before you go on and have yourself a shit fit wouldn’t you think it’s a good idea to maybe look for a more credible source than CNN. From reading your articles you can clearly all of these methods of evidence would never hold up in court. Anyone can make a tape, anyone tamper with it. If it’s not Osama its someone else and you have a whole lot of people who are completely innocent, who the US Army has not a fragment evidence to use against them detained in Guantánamo Bay. And that's just wrong.

I'm afraid your reasoning is taking a massive nosedive. The point is that a wide VARIETY of sources have seen the Al-Qaeda tapes and have read the Al-Qaeda texts because they are all published by Al-Jazeera. As such they are diseminated to any expert truly interested in analyzing them. If there is a significant reason to believe that the tapes/texts are a forgery A) Al-Jazeera probably would not have released it to the public or B) French experts, Muslim experts, ANY expert would raise significant doubts which would draw closer scrutiny. Therefore, I don't NEED to speak Arabic or be in the same freaking room as Bin Laden as he's talking because there are plenty of people who ARE experts and who would speak up. Use some common sense here, do you need to be an astronaut to know that the Earth is round???

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Originally posted by hausmusic First of all it's not my 'Jew theory' and I never said Jew's were the cause of 9/11 mofo!! That was simply there because there is a paragraph in that article stating that Osama Bin Laden denied 9/11. Secondly, tell me if any of you jackasses have fukin read the so called article presented by Al Qaeda or can speak Arabic that you know for a fact that Osama himself is responsible for 9/11. It is not a conspiracy theory a lot of people where overjoyed when 9/11 attacks happened. Just like I am sure a lot of Americans where overjoyed when the first bombs fell over Iraq killing many innocent people. I don’t back Osama bin Laden the only thing is I’m not that stupid that I would allow my government to go on a killing spree on false pretenses. And yes many of the tapes sent by al Qaeda any average Arabic speaking person could tell you the difference in dialects in the tapes sent. So one day he's Egyptian the other he’s Lebanese. If you can kindly refrain from posting anymore CNN please do I’m going to barf. Ok you guys don’t get my point I’m not even saying he isn’t the cause of 9/11 all I’m saying is if the war on Iraq was a big eye opener for Americans you guys can clearly see now that your government cannot be trusted. So before you go on and have yourself a shit fit wouldn’t you think it’s a good idea to maybe look for a more credible source than CNN. From reading your articles you can clearly all of these methods of evidence would never hold up in court. Anyone can make a tape, anyone tamper with it. If it’s not Osama its someone else and you have a whole lot of people who are completely innocent, who the US Army has not a fragment evidence to use against them detained in Guantánamo Bay.And that's just wrong.

okay, you jump from osama's lack of involvement to the us mistakes in being in Iraq.. sounds like your finding the correct conclusion by accident

americans during this administration may have been duped by a lot of things, but i have yet to find evidence that some group other than al-qaeda is responsible for the tragedy of 9/11. if you want to base the attacks on who celebrated, why don't you blame the hippies down the street who cheered because they thought it was the end of capitalism and globalization? you're just as bad as those misguided kids..

please don't associate the trash produced by america as being americans. and don't try to back out of your assertions that the cause of 9/11 isn't the reason of your thread.. if you want to argue the reason's behind the war in iraq, then do so... there's plenty of threads dedicated to that pretense

you may even find a couple of americans who feel this war is bullshit