Become a part of the TranceAddict community!Frequently Asked Questions - Please read this if you haven'tSearch the forums
TranceAddict Forums > Other > Political Discussion / Debate > Can someone give a scientific explanation for this behaviour?
Pages (2): « 1 [2]   Last Thread   Next Thread
Share
Author
Thread    Post A Reply
gurra
Supreme tranceaddict



Registered: Jun 2004
Location: Stockholm, Sweden

quote:
Originally posted by paranoik0
sure, the problem with comunnism/socialism before was that it went too far trying to make the people too equal. its all about the balance between equality and freedom.


Yeah I know communism went too far, but but that slash between communism and socialism confuses me, not the same thing IMHO.

Old Post Jul-28-2004 19:56  Sweden
Click Here to See the Profile for gurra Click here to Send gurra a Private Message Add gurra to your buddy list Report this Post Reply w/Quote Edit/Delete Message
NeoPhono
Übermensch



Registered: Sep 2003
Location: In Orbit

quote:
Originally posted by gurra
I understand why people have the same opinion as you. But I sure don't want a society where some are enormously rich (even if they "deserve" all their money!) and some incredibly poor. Of course you should be able to do better for yourself, but how are you going to afford a good education if you're born in to poverty? The society must give everyone the same basic conditions.


There is a universality that people are born with in capitalist style economy: hard work equals prosperity. How many countless examples of people going from rags to riches do we need? Only a very, very small portion of those considered in the upper class are from so called "old" money.

I would also strongly argue the true meaning of "poverty" at least in the United States. What constitutes poverty is extremely subjective from country to country, and more importantly from decade to decade. Examine those living in poverty from other countries, and even look at what constituted poverty 100 years ago for an American and you will see drastic differences.

I wish I could find the article, but I read an interesting interview with a bottled water producer from Denmark. It had gotten to the point that he would actually stop working when he got to certain income level, because anything more the government would completely take away. True, the entire population is guaranteed certain privelages, but at the cost of incentive to work any harder than those around you. If I am guaranteed that even if I work twice as hard as my neighbor, I will only reap the same rewards, what is my incentive to work harder? Socialism in this form destroys incentive by punishing those that would work to get ahead.

Old Post Jul-28-2004 20:02  United States
Click Here to See the Profile for NeoPhono Click here to Send NeoPhono a Private Message Visit NeoPhono's homepage! Add NeoPhono to your buddy list Report this Post Reply w/Quote Edit/Delete Message
noikeee
dubstep convert



Registered: Apr 2002
Location: lost and wandering looking for directions.

quote:
Originally posted by gurra
Yeah I know communism went too far, but but that slash between communism and socialism confuses me, not the same thing IMHO.


neophono was the one that came up with the slash

i don't have much knowledge in the general area of politics and politic history to be honest, but there seem to be very different forms of socialism. the socialist party here in portugal seems to have huge differences compared to the old east "socialist" dictatorships. i guess he was trying to define the area that goes from that "extreme" socialism to plain old russian communism.

i hope i ain't talking nonsense


___________________
sempre contra a corrente do jogo

Old Post Jul-28-2004 20:10  Portugal
Click Here to See the Profile for noikeee Click here to Send noikeee a Private Message Visit noikeee's homepage! Add noikeee to your buddy list Report this Post Reply w/Quote Edit/Delete Message
dukes
meh!



Registered: Nov 2003
Location: No mans land

ok here is how you think about things like this....


you have to think why in relation to the ultimate aim of all known life... procreation.

im holding back from going too deep into this or i will go on forever explaining it all.

you take a test at school and get an A and you are happy as you feel on top of the "smartest" rung hence more chance of obtaining a mate. when your mate knocks you off its a blow to you standing. The feeling of dissapointment is to make you aware of how successfull you are being on these kind of scales. there are more than smartest strongest and such as they can go into case specific. when it comes down to it the dissapointment is always to make you know what is the best and what is the worst. if you did not feel this you would have had no drive to perform the whatever act in the first place.

i know someone is going to start picking examples that they believe do not fit into this scheme but this is just one example. if you take any example it will fit into the whole "everything is done for procreation" thing.


___________________

www.djdukes.com
<---Latest Set--->

Old Post Jul-28-2004 20:13  Scotland
Click Here to See the Profile for dukes Click here to Send dukes a Private Message Visit dukes's homepage! Add dukes to your buddy list Report this Post Reply w/Quote Edit/Delete Message
Yoepus
Neo-condimist



Registered: Jan 2002
Location: Ketchup fields, Texas
Re: Can someone give a scientific explanation for this behaviour?

quote:
Originally posted by trancaholic
My question is, why are we like that?
Some of you have been pretty good at coming up with explanations for weird behaviour taking outset in evolution, but I cannot really see any situation where this tendency to feel cheated should be an advantage?


This situation is easily explained by the The Superiority/Inferiority Theory - its a theory I've developed derived from the works of Hobbes, Nietzsche, and Darwin. The theory is to the theory of evolution what the theory of relativity was to Newton.

Don't worry I'll write a book about it someday and it will all be clear. Basic premise is that pre-life all 'life' is at an absolute superiority. When life is born/generated it is at absolute inferiority. Life is the quest of returing to absolute superiority.


___________________
SAVE ZIONIST MUSTARD: BUY ZIONIST KETCHUP!


Click here to support the free mustard alliance.

Old Post Jul-28-2004 21:40  Israel
Click Here to See the Profile for Yoepus Click here to Send Yoepus a Private Message Visit Yoepus's homepage! Add Yoepus to your buddy list Report this Post Reply w/Quote Edit/Delete Message
Seventil
Supreme tranceaddict



Registered: Aug 2003
Location: A random vineyard, France
Re: Re: Can someone give a scientific explanation for this behaviour?

quote:
Originally posted by Yoepus
This situation is easily explained by the The Superiority/Inferiority Theory - its a theory I've developed derived from the works of Hobbes, Nietzsche, and Darwin. The theory is to the theory of evolution what the theory of relativity was to Newton.

Don't worry I'll write a book about it someday and it will all be clear. Basic premise is that pre-life all 'life' is at an absolute superiority. When life is born/generated it is at absolute inferiority. Life is the quest of returing to absolute superiority.


Bitte, Hitler.

Well, Americans will love it at least... :P

Old Post Jul-28-2004 23:41  France
Click Here to See the Profile for Seventil Click here to Send Seventil a Private Message Visit Seventil's homepage! Add Seventil to your buddy list Report this Post Reply w/Quote Edit/Delete Message

TranceAddict Forums > Other > Political Discussion / Debate > Can someone give a scientific explanation for this behaviour?
Post New Thread    Post A Reply

Pages (2): « 1 [2]  
Last Thread   Next Thread
Click here to listen to the sample!Pause playbackHiver & Hammer - Step By Step ( ???? mix) PLEASE HELP ME [2004] [3]

Click here to listen to the sample!Pause playbackElectrovoya - "Whispers" [2005]

Show Printable Version | Subscribe to this Thread
Forum Jump:

All times are GMT. The time now is 09:44.

Forum Rules:
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is ON
vB code is ON
[IMG] code is ON
 
Search this Thread:

 
Contact Us - return to tranceaddict

Powered by: Trance Music & vBulletin Forums
Copyright ©2000-2026, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Privacy Statement / DMCA
Support TA!