Then do yourself a favor and stay away from the Pioneer series. At least on the Ecler NUO & Denon you can customize the effects. I'm not knocking the Pioneers - they've been around a long time and the built-in effects were revolutionary. But now you can walk into any club, and without seeing the setup, tell if the DJ is up there playing (usually way too much) with a DJM 500, 600, or 3000. The effects sound all the same after a while.

You'd be best served going with a mixer with a quality send/return feature (again I recommend Rane's Flex/FX control scheme), and a solid sampler and/or effects unit.

I already said I'm not knocking the Pioneer units, but let the flames begin.

i would definitely choose a nuo5 over a pioneer djm mixer. not used one but it looks very much like fun to me!

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wow, just read this review:

http://www.djforums.com/reviews/mixers/ecler_nuo5.php

that nuo5 looks amazing. seems like the perfect combination of everything for my needs. how come I've never heard of it before?!? I guess because it's just not "brand name". do you know what online retailers carry this?

EDIT: One more thing. I've seen it referred to as a "5 channel mixer", yet there are only eqs and sliders for 4 channels. How is this so?

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ecler looks good, but I dont see any descrption of the CUE settings?
does it have split cue?

Its usually called a 4 channel, but some people might call it 5 because of the mic channel (with eq.) At the end of this month i should be ordering either the dnx1500, or the nuo5, im not sure which one yet, but im strongly leaning twords choosing the dnx-1500.

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why are you leaning toward the dnx? because of the matrix?

I would defineately recommend the dn-X1500... I have played around with it, and it is defineately a solid ass mixer.... The effects were mint, and bpm'd properly... I am still waiting for the Nuo5 to come to the store to see what its like, but its anything like its hyped up to be, then WOW... Both jump to the top of my list... Right now I am debating on upgrading to a better mixer., just not sure if I wanna go with a Numark/Vestax level or jump in the 1000+ dollar range mixer (Pioneer, Denon, Ecler)....

Thats one of the reasons. Im not really sure how useful the matrix is, but it sure was fun. When i was using one at a store, the guy showed me how to have one song playing through three channels, so that one channel would be the bass, another the treble, and the third the mid. This let you use the upfaders to control the eqs. That was pretty fun, although maybe not too useful for alot of people.

Also, the nuo5 is very new, and if there are any problems with it, i dont think it can be updated like the dnx1500 can (and will be.)

I do really like how you can customize the effects on the nuo5 by plugging it into your computer, but the denon lets you download new effects through updates, and i prefer having the display on the denon, compared to the LEDs on the nuo5 for effects. Also, i beleive that you can adjust things on the denon without plugging it into your computer, because it has a display. Dont quote me on this, but i think you can adjust the faders, and the eqs. I'll have to try to find confirmation on that, because if you can adjust the eqs on the mixer, im buying the denon for sure.

The nuo5 has midi, so if that matters to you, get it of course. Most people dont need midi though.

Being a trance/house Dj myself, i think you should invest in a 3 or 4 channel mixer. The extra channels can be very useful from external samplers to other TT and believe me you can get really creative . You might not need it now, but it is very advisable to invest in a product that can also be useful in the long run.

Personally i always thought the 2 channel mixers were more suitable for the scratch and battle djs.

yeah, youre right, thanks Rhue.

How necessary are effects for a trance/house DJ? Maybe I'm just not an experienced enough of a listener, but I don't think I've ever heard Tiesto or PvD or anyone "big" use effects in their mixes. Are they just for fun or do they serve a real purpose? Because if not, I shouldn't bother looking at 4 channel mixers with effects...might just go with a Rane Empath.

Get more than 2 channells, when you get god, your gonna want to get more creative with your mixing, and extra channells come in very handy, I can't wait for the day I have a CDJ and can mix 3 ways again.

As for the Denon and Ecler, man its gonna be a tough decision, one thing that really impressed me with the Denon is you can crank EVERYTHING on it, channells, EGs, Gains, and you can only just hear some static, its got very clean circuitry, but I'm sure the Ecler does aswell, another thing going for the Denon is the fact you it has a LCD display that wil come in handy, can't wait to play with the Ecler.