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DJ_Ampz
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Registered: Jul 2001
Location: Guelph (again)

^I was thinking Judge Judy.....

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Fir3start3r
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Registered: Oct 2001
Location: Toronto, ON, Canada

Silverman Helps?

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DJ_Ampz
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Registered: Jul 2001
Location: Guelph (again)

in NYC...

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Matt
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Registered: Nov 2001
Location: Toronto, Canada

NYTA gang beating!


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StereoPrincess
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Registered: May 2001
Location: SPFRI

quote:
Originally posted by 404 Science
for 1400 bucks forget it... you'll end up losing all your money to court fees and lawyer fees....

plus a year or two or waiting...


the court fees are not that much.

and they pay for court fees once the judgement goes through.

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DJ_Ampz
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Registered: Jul 2001
Location: Guelph (again)

That is what i was thinking, Lawyer deal. Here or in NYC?

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jpgrdnr
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Registered: Aug 2003
Location: Halifax, Canada

Well you could run the drivers license through someone. And determine if its fake.

I'd say its worth a trip down to NYC.
And do a bit of research.

What about contacting the Canadian embassy in New York? To sort of figure out where you stand legally. I dont really know if embassies do that sort of thing.

Obviously the guy can be found because there is a paper trail.

I'm not sure it merits any looking into from the authorities because its only $1400 US. I dont know if that consists of anything more than theft.

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DJ_Ampz
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Registered: Jul 2001
Location: Guelph (again)

is there a cross boarder fraud website or so?

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Izra
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Registered: Jun 2003
Location: Kingston, Ontario

Oh Barry thats really to bad !! I hope it all works out. That is a lot of money to just loose !

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Chinaman
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Registered: Mar 2004
Location: Toronto, Canada

The money order has a tracking number on it, that his bank must confirm with my bank that its legit before it passes.

^^^

DJ_Ampz, sorry to hear about your situation.

Since I work in a bank, here's what I can tell you about the money orders (it's not good news either)

All money orders have serial numbers so they can be tracked and traced. However, since a money order is essentially "cash", that is, once it has the appropriate signatures and blanks filled in, it's legit since the funds are debited from your account directly; whereas the funds in a cheque must clear before leaving your account.

Since it's cash, you cannot put a stop payment on it like you would a cheque. The only way a money order can be returned or voided is if it has been altered, forged or counterfeited.

On your end, you purchased the money order at your institution and it was done in the proper manner. So, for this individual to deposit it into his account provided it was made out to the proper name and such, what he did was not illegal.

From a legal standpoint, do you have any sort of records of the proposed transaction? Ideally, if you had something in writing with his signature saying he promised to deliver some goods, then you have a concrete case.

On the other hand, I'm guessing everything was agreed to in conversation and perhaps email, hopefully you emails indicate he was intending to give you the CD decks; you have recourse in that case.

My best advice is to seek legal counsel. If I'm not mistaken, even emails carry enough clout the same way a signed document does. Working in a large company, you always see the disclaimer at the bottom mentioning that if you are the recipient of confidential or privileged information, you have certain measures outlined in the email saying you must inform the sender and whatnot.

I hope everything works out for you, best of luck.


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DJ_Ampz
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^Sounds all about right. I got all the e-mails from him.

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crazedcanuck
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Registered: Jul 2003
Location: Red Deer, AB

I'd also talk to the cops... if he is still continuing his online fraud bit, set him up in another buy, and nail him in person.

And fyi, always use a 3rd party escrow service, like Paypal, or travel and pick up large ticket items and test them before you hand over the cash.

Using things like Paypal will allow you to pay via credit card, and void any sketchy transactions.

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