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torontotrance
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Registered: Apr 2001
Location: Toronto

No, I just stated what happens, you can view that bombings happen first then Isreal fights back or Isreal fights back and the Bombings happen, either way you look at it, IT IS WRONG!. Does fighting a wrong with a wrong = a solution? No

I can't stand either side here (Palestine and Isreal), they are simply narrow minded trying to protect their own selfless interests when a truce would save more lives being lost (which means both sides will have to give in, I know it's hard) but it won't end either way. No amount of your bitching will do anything about it, no amount of violence will solve it. Both sides are wrong and they need to solve the problem, so that the region can live in peace and future generations can raise their families in peace. That's not going to happen, neither side will give in or consider exchanging something for something else. Both sides will have to give in, feel free to rant on and on about how wrong a certain side is but it won't solve anything and that attitude is the reason why that their is still violence and strife among both sides, it is sad really. I view if the IRA and the British Government can put away 400 years of hate because they want future generations to live in peace and they can hammer out a peace agreement (fragile it may be but they still came together after all the murders and killings over the years, all the families torn apart on both sides). I view if they can do it, why can't palestine and isreal do it? because palestine and isreal are only concerned about their own self interests.

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Cyrus King
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Registered: Oct 2001
Location: Toronto

quote:
Originally posted by torontotrance
No, I just stated what happens, you can view that bombings happen first then Isreal fights back or Isreal fights back and the Bombings happen, either way you look at it, IT IS WRONG!. Does fighting a wrong with a wrong = a solution? No

I can't stand either side here (Palestine and Isreal), they are simply narrow minded trying to protect their own selfless interests when a truce would save more lives being lost (which means both sides will have to give in, I know it's hard) but it won't end either way. No amount of your bitching will do anything about it, no amount of violence will solve it. Both sides are wrong and they need to solve the problem, so that the region can live in peace and future generations can raise their families in peace. That's not going to happen, neither side will give in or consider exchanging something for something else. Both sides will have to give in, feel free to rant on and on about how wrong a certain side is but it won't solve anything and that attitude is the reason why that their is still violence and strife among both sides, it is sad really. I view if the IRA and the British Government can put away 400 years of hate because they want future generations to live in peace and they can hammer out a peace agreement (fragile it may be but they still came together after all the murders and killings over the years, all the families torn apart on both sides). I view if they can do it, why can't palestine and isreal do it? because palestine and isreal are only concerned about their own self interests.


its more than just the black and white scenario you wrote here.

Its not that simple.. there are deep rooted causes as to why each side reacts as it does.

I cant get into everything.. but if you do a search.. you will be able to identify the direct and indirect arguments both sides has.

I was neutral like you.. but after seeing a noticeable discrepancy between sufferer and oppressor.. i began to argue for the human rights of the sufferer.. and in this case.. the palestinians (not exclusively though) are to be sympathized.

Iwont goon further.. its going to get the zionists labelling again


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torontotrance
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Registered: Apr 2001
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I know how deep the hate goes, I've read books about it but I think it's the best for the world and for both countries and for future generations. Yes, it's easy to say an agreement should be hammered out, I know the roots and problems from years past. I always think if the IRA and the Brit Gov't could do it, why can't others. I know each situation is difficult and unique but I'm tired of seeing the news of suicide bombings and Isreal hitting some house or killing some people. I just think the conflict is pointless and I pray every night that the situation will find a solution because it is better for everyone involved.

Old Post Aug-15-2004 05:46  Canada
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fastmp3
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Registered: Apr 2001
Location: Montreal/Canada & Casablanca/Morocco (the ROOTS of TRANCE)

torontofuckface

who the fuck are you to judge me ? if there's something or someone i hate in this board , it must be you how do you know if my mind is filled with hate of the other side ? have you ever met me ? do you know who are my friends ? obviously you don't you fuckin' dick head

i pee on you and your miserable dumb ass life


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P.S I piss on ronald reagans grave


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damn that made me laugh alot


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torontotrance
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Registered: Apr 2001
Location: Toronto

quote:
Originally posted by fastmp3
torontofuckface

who the fuck are you to judge me ? if there's something or someone i hate in this board , it must be you how do you know if my mind is filled with hate of the other side ? have you ever met me ? do you know who are my friends ? obviously you don't you fuckin' dick head

i pee on you and your miserable dumb ass life


Be a mod and lead by example, obviously you can't

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fastmp3
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look at yourself douchebag , you're not gonna teach me lessons


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torontotrance
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I never flamed you to begin with, I'm leading by example now, something you have never done.

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I never flamed you to begin with, I'm leading by example now, something you have never done.


You see.. mods like FAST MP3 are not on a trigger happy banning power trip mood all the time. That is the differnce


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fastmp3
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quote:
Originally posted by torontotrance
I never flamed you to begin with, I'm leading by example now, something you have never done.



andy , a mod isn't supposed to provoque someone else by lying and accusing him of something he didn't do.

if you were a good christian as you've always been claiming it , you wouldn't have wrote the crap you posted in your first message in this thread.

lying is bad , that's the only advise i'll give you son


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ZinG
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Registered: Jul 2001
Location: HAXOMFGWTFBBQ!!! MAUREAL

quote:
Originally posted by torontotrance
When will they stop the hate and just hammer a peace agreement and a truce that solves the matters. It's unfortunate that both sides are so deeply dug into their beliefs that a peace agreement seems out of the question. The hate shows up here with Cyrus King, Zing, Malek, Fastmp3 and others and their views of things. You people show exactly why there is no peace agreement because your minds are so filled with hate for the other side. This problem has gone on far too long and it won't end if an agreement is not solved, more suicide bombings, more Isreal fighting back, more innocent people who want to live their lives without violence and just go living dying for no reason. The situation shows what happens when two sides hate each other so much that they can't do what's best for future generations (which is a peaceful upbringing without threats of violence) but no, both sides are too selfish to care about that or they would have solved this problem.

seriously wtf are you talking about?
i barely post in here
what hate u moron? I have many israeli friends, i never bash them. You're so deep in the closet you're finding christmas presents

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fastmp3
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Registered: Apr 2001
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when's tta going to do his coming out of the closet ?


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