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FederalBI
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Registered: Dec 2003
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fist of all cyrus if you think pals got more cheers then israel did , keep on dreaming , i guess you were watching the hizballah channel and they added manualy applause .
if you already showed a palestinian judoist , i'm so fucking wishing the israeli champion will meet him ( israeli champion Arik zeavi , is currectly ranked in the 2nd place in the world ) that could be a great fight.
p.s and again that joke about cheering the pals hhhhhhhhhh


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Cyrus King
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quote:
Originally posted by FederalBI
fist of all cyrus if you think pals got more cheers then israel did , keep on dreaming , i guess you were watching the hizballah channel and they added manualy applause .
if you already showed a palestinian judoist , i'm so fucking wishing the israeli champion will meet him ( israeli champion Arik zeavi , is currectly ranked in the 2nd place in the world ) that could be a great fight.
p.s and again that joke about cheering the pals hhhhhhhhhh


Iraq, Afghnistan, Palestine the US and Greece received cheers

You are in denial.. it was even mentioned by the commentators on CBC

and that iranian that backed away from the games...he has been a gold medalist.. so he would crush that isaeli anyway


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noikeee
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Iranian world judo champion Arash Miresmaili, who carried his country's flag in the Olympic Games (news - web sites) opening ceremony, has pulled out of the tournament because he refused to fight an Israeli


despite some sympathy i have for the palestinians, that is quite lame. people for some reason take the olympics for political demonstrations and generalize individual athletes for their national politics... i just don't agree with that.


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Cyrus King
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Originally posted by paranoik0
despite some sympathy i have for the palestinians, that is quite lame. people for some reason take the olympics for political demonstrations and generalize individual athletes for their national politics... i just don't agree with that.


I also agree... this is not the right way to go about things. Its the olympics for fucks sake.. a place to compete in sport... not express political differnces


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D-res
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Registered: May 2004
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Originally posted by BadBadNeil
Iran doesn't recognize Israel as a country but they were both there. Just because a single country doesn't recognize a country to exist it doesn't mean they can't participate. They were even talking about an iranian who drew an israeli in his first round and he may quit the games because they don't recognize israelis to exist. Now that is screwed up to me.



thats is quite screwed up. its really sad imo when different people wont accept on basis of religion or history. i mean, i understand the palestinian and israeli conflicts have been going on for such a long time, but once every four years people from opposing countries, etc can settle their differences in a peaceful manner. plus i would think that if he doesnt recognize israel as a nation he would want to prove his self-named superiority by competing and beating another person at something he loves to do. but what do i know.

lastly, i dont understand why the US got as much cheers as they did. i mean, im from the US but i dont like it very much. im planning on moving to europe in a few years. but the fact that most of the world despizes the US, or atleast the US foreign policy and whatnot, i dont understand why we received so many cheers. i personally dont think we deserved it. but oh well. i was just glad some other countries that you wouldnt expect to get cheers actually did, and big ones at that.

i dont remember whos team, it was either afghanistan or iraq i think, that was flown out secretly by military transport because otherwise they werent allowed to go or something along those lines. i missed something though.

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St_Andrew
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Originally posted by PVD & T[]C
lastly, i dont understand why the US got as much cheers as they did. i mean, im from the US but i dont like it very much. im planning on moving to europe in a few years. but the fact that most of the world despizes the US, or atleast the US foreign policy and whatnot, i dont understand why we received so many cheers. i personally dont think we deserved it. but oh well. i was just glad some other countries that you wouldnt expect to get cheers actually did, and big ones at that.


It may have been that it actually was a lot of americans there. but really, it's not like everyone hates you just because of your awful foreign policies, your terrible environmental policies and everything else that effect us in a negative way

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JM
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quote:
Originally posted by PVD & T[]C
but the fact that most of the world despizes the US, or atleast the US foreign policy and whatnot, i dont understand why we received so many cheers.



exactly right - you dont understand. looks like liberal media got the best of you. let me explain. the people were not there to cheer for politics and foreign policy - they were there to unite as a world's people and cheer on the athletes, every one of whom very much deserves to be there.


quote:
i personally dont think we deserved it.


the athletes not deserving the cheers? son, you're lost. might as well move to europe to contribute to their funny politics, and make room in the US for someone a bit more intelligent.

>JM<

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taltul
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Originally posted by Cyrus King
I also agree... this is not the right way to go about things. Its the olympics for fucks sake.. a place to compete in sport... not express political differnces

haha... i'm so amazed by your sanctimony [yea thats how i call it]...
u were the first for god sakes who started this thread by countin how many applause has everyone got by connectin' it straight to the isr-pal conflict and now abruptly u r sayin that actually this is not the right way to express the politics coz its olympics...
dont u blush?...

ps: i see you r good even excelent in "countin" u should go and learn in or smth [first it was corpses-countin now its about applause]...

ps2: btw guys what happened? why they did "boo" to the Bulgaria?


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D-res
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quote:
Originally posted by JM
the athletes not deserving the cheers? son, you're lost. might as well move to europe to contribute to their funny politics, and make room in the US for someone a bit more intelligent.

>JM<



on no.. i think the atheletes deserve the applause and cheers, but where were these applause and cheers for the other countries. you would just have to hear the commentators on NBC last night when the US came out. They were all exclaiming "and listen to those cheers, as the US team walks out. blah blah blah the US ownz you all"

i dont think we deserve that kind of recognition. i know the olymics are about the athletes and they deserve applause more than can be provided for their efforts but the way that the US media portrayed america in comparison with other countries was sickening. i just suppose my wording was wrong. i didnt mean the way it sounded.

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BadBadNeil
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I dont think the US media portrayed them any different, they were quite balanced if you ask me. In fact I think that both announcers were expecting the US to get booed for our foreign policy and were quite surprised we got cheers. This isn't a place to showcase your political beliefs its only about athletes. So why shouldn't we have gotten cheered? Are our athletes bad? Also if the announcers did show any favoritism to the US athletes ( i noticed they had a bit more camera time) its because after all we ARE in the US. I'm sure foreign countries got more air time with their media as well. You can't blame a person from the US for being excited about their country. Perhaps too it could have been some of the American athlete who have more notoreity in the world than other players, you can't deny that the US has the best trained athletes in the world. It's not bragging, its just a fact.

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Yoepus
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heh.

Just to point out the irony in this thread.
Shouldn't the thread's title read:

"Israel a nation to the world except for Iran, Saudia Arabia, UAE, Yemen, Syria... etc..."





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taltul
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Originally posted by Yoepus
heh.

Just to point out the irony in this thread.
Shouldn't the thread's title read:

"Israel a nation to the world except for Iran, Saudia Arabia, UAE, Yemen, Syria... etc..."





Lol...thats it... u ve got the point man...
also it could be smth like: "Israel is not a nation to the world except USA"...


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