quote:

Originally posted by Orko exactly. And our move away from the more intimate/underground venues to the big club venues,

Um, am i the only one here who remembers the Skydome raves, the science centre raves, the better living centre raves and the International centre raves?

We used to have massives with up to 20,000 per event. I miss the big massives as much as i miss the small parties that used to happen everywhere.

quote:

Originally posted by Jayx1 We do? I remember having the choice of 3 or 4 big parties per weekend back in the 90s. Not so in 2004.

3 to 4 parties per weekend is excessive.
The scene was thriving then, yes. But what goes up must come down - but don't try and blame that on the policing that occurred.

Even if the policing/increased regulations are PARTIALLY to blame, it's worth it.

i dont blame just the police, the media fuelled by political interest was the culprit. And we are for the better? Last I checked the clubscene was pretty hurting in Toronto in 2004. And, all i hear is people bitching bitching bitching about what they dont like everytime they go to a party. So i dont think we are better for it.

the 90s were Toronto's time. Sadly the media and politicians in 2000 put an end to all that.

And it wasnt excessive because most if not all those parties were full of people. I miss the choice. Now there is one, at best 2 events per week and if you dont like the DJ or genre then you are screwed.

People always complain and complain i'm sure it wasn't any better then than it is now...

Regardless...you are speaking as if they did it on purpose to piss someone off...after all it was done for the benefit of the people...and yes it is safer now...I don't hear thank god as many reports of kids ODing on shit and dying in a parking lot of an underground rave

___________________
Photo Album: *Click*

quote:

Originally posted by Jayx1 when the general public starts focussing in on the club scene, ITS NEVER A GOOD THING FOR PARTIERS!

Very true. Couldn't agree more.

___________________
- rabbit.joker [funny¿rabbit] | www.rabbitjoker.com |www.ddtt.org

Dark Dirty Tech Tribal. | Hands in air (trance) and feet on the floor (house).

quote:

Originally posted by rabbitjoker Very true. Couldn't agree more.

Why?

Because you end up getting the general (uninformed) public making rules, setting standards and enforcing policies that are irrelevant and actual do not address the real issues.

-----

When the city decided to ban raves from city property, do you think they (seriously) consulted event promoters, performers and attendees? No.

Instead there was a commitee, a panel of mostly uninvolved people - and the end result, no more mega-parties in Toronto. Talk to Ryan (OS2) - he was there (and got steamrolled with the rest of the supporters).

If the city did consult those "in the know" - they would have realized that city venues are safer then underground garages/illegal warehouses (ask Mr. Ho). Further the city set in place laws similar to those in Austrailia outlining the requirements to get a "permit" to operate on city property (which include free, clean, cold water, food vendors, paramedics, security standards, etc).

___________________
- rabbit.joker [funny¿rabbit] | www.rabbitjoker.com |www.ddtt.org

Dark Dirty Tech Tribal. | Hands in air (trance) and feet on the floor (house).

quote:

Originally posted by Jayx1 And we are for the better? Last I checked the clubscene was pretty hurting in Toronto in 2004. And, all i hear is people bitching bitching bitching about what they dont like everytime they go to a party. So i dont think we are better for it.

Most of the bitching on this board is done in Guvernment's general direction.
Which is why I hope the investigation ends up there at some point.

Toronto's clubscene is doing quite well, I think. I certainly find myself with choices every weekend - too many, sometimes.

quote:

Originally posted by starsearcher ^^ Yup sounds about right...And I'm all up for cleaner and safer, i don't need drugs to party, nobody does...and if you need drugs to have a good time then youre just foolin' yourself hehe But think I'm the only clean dude here...

That's not true, I've been clean for months now, Partying is just as fun (most of the time) without help.

___________________
www.platinumworld.ca

quote:

Originally posted by PartyHarlequin That's not true, I've been clean for months now, Partying is just as fun (most of the time) without help.

YAY I'm not alone

___________________
Photo Album: *Click*

Jayx1 - what party was at Skydome?

___________________

"In a world of illusion you only see what you feel"

quote:

Originally posted by Swamper Jayx1 - what party was at Skydome?

The Shriner's circus..... man that was a crazy party! Big top, elephant - EVERYTHING!!

___________________
- rabbit.joker [funny¿rabbit] | www.rabbitjoker.com |www.ddtt.org

Dark Dirty Tech Tribal. | Hands in air (trance) and feet on the floor (house).