hmm, why would isreal have spies in the Pentagon?

i bet sharon looked in the anus of bush already, i mean isn't US and ISreal very close? and share all their secrets anyway?

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Originally posted by Massive84 i bet sharon looked in the anus of bush already,

yep....
and the funny part,
when it was Sharon's turn to show his,
bush ran away

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What the hell is the big deal.

A. I can assure you you have spies from many different countries throughout the ranks. If Canada has a spy agency (CSIS), im sure there are plenty of others that do as well.. they certainly arnt there to spy on themselves.

B. Israel is an ally and a friendly nation , its not like its russia or China. Get over it.

C. You can't obviously blame other countries. What do you think the CIA does with the billions of dollars in funding it gets? Its ok to spy on other counties but its an entirely different moral issue if it happens to us? Meh

stop whining

The crucial fallacy with your assertion, is that you assume a so called "friendly" nation, is spying(whoops i mean gathering intelligence) for "friendly" Allied research purposes. As if it was Canada, for example, covertly using "our" intelligence to research and gather analysis for its own good.

However, the main differences to a nation such a Canada compared to that of Israel:

A. Is that one of these nation is under a constant security threat, a direct consequential result of policy and actions it has chosen against a people of a displaced and occupied nation.

B. Is that one of these nations has ,at last count,at least 200 Nuclear warheads (as discovered to the public in 1986 , reconfirmed from satellite images in July of 2000), a direct violation of the UN's IAEA. On top of the unsurmountable proven evidence of nuclear "warheads"(not just reactors), this nation still maintains to flat out deny possession and to this day will not allow UN (not just American) Nuclear Arms inspectors in the country.
(please do a google on "Dimona" )

C. One of these nations, has been issued over 70 Resolutions for Violations against United Nation policy for the abuse of Human rights and occupying lands that do not belong to it. Further instigating conflict and a part of the world that has only seen intense violence for the past 50-60 years.

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So what the hell is the big deal?

The fact the U.S. gives billions of dollars of our tax money every year to support Israel and it's military as opposed to other useful domestic investments. The fact that U.S. policy in the middle east been in-line with Israel since it's inceptions, despite increasing world animosity and terrorist attacks. One really does not have to assume Israeli influence can penetrate the "most powerful country in the world"..one just has to open up a news paper.

In reality this is not about some pencil pusher sitting at a pentagon desk, stealing classified documents on Iran to give to the Israeli government. It's about a Ranked pencil pusher who works in the same office that has influenced the CIA, later the American Government, and finally the American public that we should attack Iraq based on falsified claims of weapons of Mass destruction. This guy is just a scape goat who gets slap on the wrist as opposed to influential "leaders" higher up the chain causing mass hysteria if caught.

So u can assure me all you want about the intelligence community around the world and how it operates. But I'd rather see my tax go to productive actions that directly benefit our citizens, not Israel's intelligence budget.

There are a lot of moles in a lot of intelligence agencies in the world. Intelligence is very valuable to a lot of countries and it does not surprise me if Isreal had someone feeding them information at times. It would not also surprise me if the US gov't had a bunch of moles in different intelligence agencies. You can't trust anyone these days, we all know what russian spies did to the CIA and what american spies did to the KGB.

I'm surprised Israel needs a mole, dont they have a direct line to the white house. We luv Israel so much we smile while they fark us up the pooper.

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There is nothing difficult to understand about why Israel spys on the US, if you think about it. Perhaps being a Psychology student makes it quite clear to me. Israel suffers from 'delusions of paranoia'. When you're paranoid, you'll keep a close eye on not only your enemies, but also your friends. Ever hear the saying "keep your enemies close, and your friends closer"? Bingo.

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Originally posted by Palestinian There is nothing difficult to understand about why Israel spys on the US, if you think about it. Perhaps being a Psychology student makes it quite clear to me. Israel suffers from 'delusions of paranoia'. When you're paranoid, you'll keep a close eye on not only your enemies, but also your friends. Ever hear the saying "keep your enemies close, and your friends closer"? Bingo.

I think the saying goes, "keep your friends close and your enemies closer"

Delusions of paranoia? 6 million people suffering from paranoia?

actually the saying goes the way I said it as well. keep your friends closer so that they don't stab you in the back.

and yes israel is paranoid. wouldn't you be paranoid if you killed someone or stole someone's home? wouldn't you be paranoid if you were surrounded by people that hated your guts? what's so hard to understand about that? If Iran has nukes, Israel is in danger of being wiped off the planet, and any Zionist will testify to that before I do. so why is an israeli supporter asking me if israel is truly paranoid? you should know this better than I.

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Theodore Herzl, founder of the World Zionist Organization: "Spirit the penniless population across the frontier by denying it employment... Both the process of expropriation and the removal of the poor must be carried out discreetly and circumspectly."

NOOOOOOO!

WTF is Israel doing?! The world is already starting to raise a brow on the treatment of Palestinians... which makes Jews look hypocritical. Israel just hasn't been making smart moves lately. Now if they lose U.S. support GOOD BYE MIDDLE EAST HELLO ARMAGEDDON.

hmmm. now where's that rug?!

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