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DjVash
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Registered: Jul 2004
Location: Netherlands

quote:
Originally posted by Dhagor
and you are a natural dumbass.

Thank you.

quote:
Originally posted by Freak
Why dont you suck on my hairy balls

Firstly, where did i say that sonys sounded crap?
I used them for years- they are fine
I do this for a living dickshit.
Ive used and owned more pairs of headphones than most people.
After extensive comparison in several venues at a variety of voumes and conditions up to and exceeding 120dB ambient noise floor, it is my professional and personal opinion that the pioneers have greater clarity at higher volume than the sonys.
They also sound better overall- the sonys are good, but the pioneers are better.
re:sennheisers
I have owned: sennheiser HD25s, HD25Sps, hd 200s and some others which i wont bore you with.
HD 25s are some of the finest headphones available, if you ignore the fact that they break and leave your ears tired in comparison with other 'phones after prolonged use. They also do not have a coiled cord.
I do have a pair still- i tend not to use them much,as again i prefer the pioneers.

`pr0digy- my ears are fine in regards to health and frequency response- had them tested a while back. As long as i keep using the plugs they will be lasting a long while yet

Headphones is one of the aspects of djing down to personal opinion and experience.
I dont give a crap about fashion or looking cool- i just want them to work and last and enable me to do the best job i can.

This thread was posted as an update to my continuing saga of breaking headphones, and the excellent way pioneer have dealt with my warranty ( so far)- not as a flame thread.

For some reason, I find your last sentence violating the first two lines of your post.

You say Sony's don't sound better overall. Might I ask which ones? For instance, the two best headphones by Sony (V700 and V900) go very hard without messing up the music. The volumelimit where a V700 starts to deform and where a Pioneer starts to deform is way higher at the Sony. Further, the sound a Pioneer produces is slightly deformed, and a V700 and the V900 don't have deformed sound. The HD-25 doesn't have deformed sound either.

Have you ever tried the regular HD-25? I've never heard anyone breaking them. That reputation mostly goes to Sony with the MDR-V700 (which is definetly true, they made a construcion error with that phone).

I would've agreed with you if you said that the V700 is one of the finest headphones available, but they are bound to break. That one is just a matter of time. And ofcourse choosing a headphone is a personal opinion (for instance, ppl believe that the V700 is too tight around the ears). But when one chooses a headphone which has deformed sound by default, i'd call it a waste. Especially when they say that deformed sound is better than undeformed sound (which is the case if you say the Pioneer sounds better than the Sony's).

Ofcourse not all Sony's are neutral: I've got a very old V100 over here (never used it for DJ'ing) and that one definetly isn't neutral. Starting from V600, they produce pretty good headphones (and that's funny, because the V600 and the V500 have the same drivers. They just perform better in a bigger housing). The V500 and V700 are known to break, the V600 and V900 practically NEVER break.

And when it comes to Pioneers: Those things break like hell too. The cord seems to be very vulnerable, which is something I do NOT want to see in such an expensive headphone. I've also heard complaints about something rattling in your ear (including yours)... So I don't know why you're so hung up with Pioneer when you broke 3 already.

Last edited by DjVash on Aug-30-2004 at 12:03

Aug-29-2004 20:20 Netherlands

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Freak
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Registered: Jul 2003
Location: On a plane probably...

quote:
Originally posted by DjVash
You say Sony's sound better overall.

erm
no i didnt

Aug-29-2004 21:32 United States

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Fast Turtle
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Registered: Nov 2001
Location: At The Party House HP: 9302

I've had sony v6's and senn hd280pro's for over a year now, they've been been banged the hell around, stepped on a few times, crammed into places, cords tripped over, and they still work perfectly.

Aug-29-2004 22:46 United States

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`pr0digy
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Registered: Sep 2003
Location: Philadelphia

I don't visit this forum nearly as much as I used to, but it seems like there's plenty of new people here. I think some of these people need to get a clue... People like Freak are among the most respected on the board. I think perhaps a few people need to show a bit more respect. Don't scare away the few people that really add to the discussions here, the few that post REAL info, not just regurgitated shit that gets reposted over and over...

Sorry to go off on a tangent there, but eh... yeah.

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DjVash
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Registered: Jul 2004
Location: Netherlands

quote:
Originally posted by Freak
erm
no i didnt

My bad. Post updated, please answer my question now.

quote:
I've had sony v6's and senn hd280pro's for over a year now, they've been been banged the hell around, stepped on a few times, crammed into places, cords tripped over, and they still work perfectly.

That's what I said. V600's practically NEVER break. The V700 and V500 however DO break.

Here you can see a nice V700 in the early phase of breaking.

quote:
Yea its funny watching people come in and mouth off to people. Especially on a board like this, were people might actually be professional DJ's.

Who knows? Just because I'm new to this forum doesn't mean I'm new to DJ'ing

Aug-30-2004 12:08 Netherlands

DesifromJC
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Registered: May 2004
Location: Jersey City, NJ

I've had 3 pair's of Sony V700's break on me. I couldn't take it anymore and so I purchased teh HDJ 1000. I have to say that those are a really nice pair of headphones. Design, sound and overall performance is great. I have noticed it's vulnerability when ur trying to fold them up to put into the bag. But I think with a little bit of care, they'll last long than the Sony's.

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Special_K
I dont know anymore

Registered: Apr 2001
Location: Vancouver

ok....from now on all flame wars should be settled with bare knuckles boxing matches.

Aug-31-2004 04:06 Canada

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Special_K
I dont know anymore

Registered: Apr 2001
Location: Vancouver

Oh and by the way i have those same sonys. That part in the pic breaks all the fucing time, and im carefull with my shit. Its just such a flimsey piece of plastic that is meant to stand the pressure of you yanking them open to take them on and off....they could fix it so easily.

Anyway i took some small zap straps and tightend them around the cracked point then i super glued them in place.....so ghetto but it works

Aug-31-2004 04:09 Canada

Freak
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Registered: Jul 2003
Location: On a plane probably...

Ok

Update:
sat right here is Pair no 4.
Brand new
Even has that new smell, strangely enough the pair i returned did too still

Dealer couldnt believe it- but knows its not my fault.

We agreed if this pair goes tits up ill get a refund, or he will order anything else i like in.
Only other pair of phones i will consider now is the new Technics RP DH1200 (not the dj1200/1210- dont like the cups)

I also phoned pioneer, and the guy said they are getting a lot of returns for the same problem- glad the warranty is just a simple replace not repair job tho

Time will tell......

Aug-31-2004 15:07 United States

dartman
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Registered: Jun 2003
Location: western mass

good luck with this new pair

Aug-31-2004 16:25 United States

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veezee
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Registered: Oct 2000
Location: Vancouver, BC

Re: For Fcuks Sake-another Hdj1000 Warranty Claim!!!!!!!!

Punch back.. harder

Jay

quote:
Originally posted by Freak
This is beyond a f*cking joke now.
Now onto my FOURTH pair, and this will be my third replacement under warranty

First pair: 6 months- still worked perfectly, but one cup had something rattling inside.

Second pair: Lasted a month, total usage: 9 times

Third (current pair): 3 weeks- total usage: 7 times- estimated use <24 hours

yep, tonight the right cup just decided to stop mid mix-awkward as i use split cue most of the time.
If i put the band over the top of my head, it will work intermittently, if i have it going behind my neck like i always have done, doesnt work at all.
Thankfully, my trusty sony mdrv700s were in my bag as spares (never doing a gig without a spare pair now- ever) and as always they worked.
They may crack, but at least they fucking keep working no-matter what you throw at them.

They are IMMACULATE- they even smell new for fucks sake, as does the bag.
They have never been kept in my box or bag, they are kept seperate in the boot of my car so they dont get crushed.
They are carried in seperately and have not been dropped.
When i get home from work, they stay in thei carrying bag on top of my UDG softbag until the next weekend when i pick them up again.
what.
the.
Fuck

USELESS.

My dealer is going to:
A)punch me
b)punch me
c)think im pulling some sort of scam
d) tell me to fuck off and punch me
e)tell me to fuck off and punch me and bar me from his shop for ever