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Originally posted by Yoepus I hope Russia just learned a painful lesson in playing 'hippie', with condemnation of Iraq and the US led war against terrorism while the face the same challenge on their own door step, it is boggling their international position on the issue. A real tradegy. Perhaps now maybe they will think twice about aiding the terrorist nuclear programs of North Korea and Iran. Ahh what am I thinking of course not, not until one of those bombs go off under the streets of Moscow.

I don't see how Russian strategy with Iraq had anything to do with these attacks. Simple facts are that Saddam Hussein had no intention of attacking Russians, he was himself fighting islamic terrorists, and one of the results of american intervention in Iraq is an increased amount of anarchy and terrorism in the region. If Russians were opposed to Afghanistan war, I'd agree with your statement, but war in Iraq did absolutely nothing to reduce the amount of islamic terrorism, infact it only did the opposite.

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Originally posted by DrUg_Tit0 I don't see how Russian strategy with Iraq had anything to do with these attacks. Simple facts are that Saddam Hussein had no intention of attacking Russians, he was himself fighting islamic terrorists, and one of the results of american intervention in Iraq is an increased amount of anarchy and terrorism in the region. If Russians were opposed to Afghanistan war, I'd agree with your statement, but war in Iraq did absolutely nothing to reduce the amount of islamic terrorism, infact it only did the opposite.

its ok, you can go on and pretend that Iraq and terrorism have nothing in common...


When living in dreamland though, recall that you can awaken reality real quick with a shocking dose of mass-murder.

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Originally posted by DrUg_Tit0 Simple facts are that Saddam Hussein had no intention of attacking Russians, he was himself fighting islamic terrorists

so why was he sending $25,000 to families of palestinians suicide bombers?

oh right...i forgot, palestinian terror is 'good terror'

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Originally posted by Flotser so why was he sending $25,000 to families of palestinians suicide bombers? oh right...i forgot, palestinian terror is 'good terror'

yeah, right?

according to Rizen it "doesn't count"

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Originally posted by Yoepus its ok, you can go on and pretend that Iraq and terrorism have nothing in common...

He isn't pretending that -- he actually (correctly) said that the likely effect of the Iraq invasion is a surge in Al-Qaeda membership and an increase in Islamist terrorism. That's certainly a link -- no doubt not the 'link' you were referring to, but a link none the less.

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Originally posted by Yoepus its ok, you can go on and pretend that Iraq and terrorism have nothing in common... When living in dreamland though, recall that you can awaken reality real quick with a shocking dose of mass-murder.

I think you are intentionally simplifying the situation. Saddam and Al Quaeda, although both opposed to the US and Israel, were not a single entity, infact they were on pretty bad terms. Russia was not on bad terms with Saddam's government. Just prior to the war, Saddam ordererd about 5000 Volga cars from the Russians to be used as taxis, something that helped the company get out of bankrupcy. Saddam did finance actions against Israel, but was really in no condition to finance Al Quaeda attacks, because they were a threat to his own survival.

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Originally posted by DrUg_Tit0 but was really in no condition to finance Al Quaeda attacks, because they were a threat to his own survival.

i wouldn't go that far, but maybe you could link something to support that. if not, cool

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Originally posted by DrUg_Tit0 I think you are intentionally simplifying the situation. Saddam and Al Quaeda, although both opposed to the US and Israel, were not a single entity, infact they were on pretty bad terms. Russia was not on bad terms with Saddam's government.

Neither are Hamas, Hezbullah, Al Quaeda, and Chechen rebles

Oh and Russia is kind to Hamas and Hezbullah, so what?

You can't pick and chose which terrorist you can befriend in this war. It is a war not against Islamic fundamentalism, but a war against terror . Unless you are against all terrorist, you simple won't have success.

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Originally posted by Yoepus Unless you are against all terrorist, you simple won't have success.

*flotser converts to cyrus-king*
also against Israel's and USA's state terrorism??

*flotser converts back to an evil zionist occupier*

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I thought of myself as a religous person. NOt the kind that goes to place of worship on regular basis but believes in higher being, in higher diety of some sort - a protector, the punisher, the ultimate judge.

I take he must be on his labor day vacation. I am sad to say it but I think I lost my faith in god. As a parent, as a human being, as a person that has at least a gram of some sanity, I cannot justify the actions of these beasts. I cannot call them humans - for they are not human. I cannot call them animals - because animals would never do something like that. I cannot call them anything but total evil. If there's a pure evil in universe, I believe it must have landed in Beslan on that fateful day.

I'm not ashamed to say it but when I saw the images of this tragedy I couldn't help but cry. If you don't have a child or younger brother/sister or even a neice/cousin/nephew - you will have a hard time understanding the emotion.

Imaginge a little boy or a girl that just played with his toys a day before going to school - a little child that has not swam in the ocean yet or rode a bike or even had a hamburger in his life, just killed. Shot in the back as he was running away, tired, naked, scared, hungry, confused, crying...

I cannot fathom the scale of hatered that these shitstains had to do something like that. HOW CAN YOU KILL A CHILD? HOW CAN YOU BRUTALLY MURDER OVER 400 HUMAN BEINGS? HOW CAN YOU PULL THE TRIGGER?

I don't understand and I don't want to. but I do want to kill. I want to kill every terrorist beast with my bare hands. I want to tear out their hearts and stomp it with my feet. I want to slice them up in million little pieces and feed them to pigs. I want to be covered in their blood as I reduce their flesh to nothing!

I have a son. a 3 year old boy. I know I couldn't live if anything happened to him. I know that I would not be able to rest until I've satisfied my hunger to kill -and that would never be satisfied, until these creatures are crawling the earth.

I hope that there's heaven and hell. I hope that these roaches these fucking muslim roaches are being subjected to incomprehensible agony - agony surpassing far greater pain, fear, and suffering that they have inflicted upon these children and people.

If there's god, allah, buddah, whoever- I hope they are all taking turns dolling out punishment to these monsters - I really hope that it is so. That's the only thing I have left - hope. not faith... just hope. For true god would have not let this have happened. how could he?

I am praying for souls of those that perished and I am praying for those that are left behind to suffer. But I don't know who to pray to. So, I pray to them...

This is just too much to handle... I hope I never see a day like this in my entire life and in the life of generations to come.

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Originally posted by CynepMeH I have a son. a 3 year old boy. I know I couldn't live if anything happened to him. I know that I would not be able to rest until I've satisfied my hunger to kill -and that would never be satisfied, until these creatures are crawling the earth.

Place yourself in the shoes of a Chechen. Russuan soldiers have slaughtered their people in the hundreds of thousands.

Your very sentence reflects what they feel everyday. Its come tot he point that they dont care for anything. That is what oppression does, it makes people insane and desensitized.. But you are too stupid to understand that becuase specific events like this are sensationailzed by the media

Read Tolstoy's quote about what he saw.. maybe you might understand.

have you ever heard of the Chechen war?????

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Originally posted by CynepMeH I thought of myself as a religous person. NOt the kind that goes to place of worship on regular basis but believes in higher being, in higher diety of some sort - a protector, the punisher, the ultimate judge. I take he must be on his labor day vacation. I am sad to say it but I think I lost my faith in god. As a parent, as a human being, as a person that has at least a gram of some sanity, I cannot justify the actions of these beasts. I cannot call them humans - for they are not human. I cannot call them animals - because animals would never do something like that. I cannot call them anything but total evil. If there's a pure evil in universe, I believe it must have landed in Beslan on that fateful day. I'm not ashamed to say it but when I saw the images of this tragedy I couldn't help but cry. If you don't have a child or younger brother/sister or even a neice/cousin/nephew - you will have a hard time understanding the emotion. Imaginge a little boy or a girl that just played with his toys a day before going to school - a little child that has not swam in the ocean yet or rode a bike or even had a hamburger in his life, just killed. Shot in the back as he was running away, tired, naked, scared, hungry, confused, crying... I cannot fathom the scale of hatered that these shitstains had to do something like that. HOW CAN YOU KILL A CHILD? HOW CAN YOU BRUTALLY MURDER OVER 400 HUMAN BEINGS? HOW CAN YOU PULL THE TRIGGER? I don't understand and I don't want to. but I do want to kill. I want to kill every terrorist beast with my bare hands. I want to tear out their hearts and stomp it with my feet. I want to slice them up in million little pieces and feed them to pigs. I want to be covered in their blood as I reduce their flesh to nothing! I have a son. a 3 year old boy. I know I couldn't live if anything happened to him. I know that I would not be able to rest until I've satisfied my hunger to kill -and that would never be satisfied, until these creatures are crawling the earth. I hope that there's heaven and hell. I hope that these roaches these fucking muslim roaches are being subjected to incomprehensible agony - agony surpassing far greater pain, fear, and suffering that they have inflicted upon these children and people. If there's god, allah, buddah, whoever- I hope they are all taking turns dolling out punishment to these monsters - I really hope that it is so. That's the only thing I have left - hope. not faith... just hope. For true god would have not let this have happened. how could he? I am praying for souls of those that perished and I am praying for those that are left behind to suffer. But I don't know who to pray to. So, I pray to them... This is just too much to handle... I hope I never see a day like this in my entire life and in the life of generations to come.

DEAR GOD YOU HAVE A SON? THE SKY HAS FALLEN

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Originally posted by CynepMeH KILL 'EM ALL - LET allah SORT 'EM OUT Fuck Islam! If you're proud to call yourself a muslim after what happened in Beslan, then fuck you too!

people like you should never be allowed to have children

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