Well...decks shouldn't be a problem now since I know what to get and where to get them from;however, where am i gonna get my vinyls from?Ive seen the ones being sold in OHM records and they'r mostly house. Im looking for trance tunes!
Its very unfortunate for me to be living in Dubai where hardly any1 lsns to trance and its not easy to find what i want.
In terms of mixers, well ive seen alot lately and i kinda like the Battle Mixer by Pioneer.Most ppl told me its for scratch djs, is that true?And about the Pioneer CDJ100's,y is it gonna be a waste of cash?Ive heard lots about them..got any recommendations for other good cd players tho?Id like them separate,not those ones attached together cuz they look gay :S

U betta off wit a djm 500/600 or even betta chk melody house in dubai for the A&H..Ive used them plenty the 92's and the filters are dope.. I love playin wit my eq's.. so its a matta of preference..

cdj 100 are good, very sturdy.. but wit betta models of the cdj out y limit urself.. unless its monetary reasons.

Ohm does have some good Trance records. but they can sort U out wit more.. go down there spk to Cyrus the bloke can sort U out wit all U record desires..

wht name U go by..? hope U get the scene pumpin in tht part of the world..

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Originally posted by tu_face where the hell do you live? a 275 is hardly an expensive mixer. in fact i would say its a bargain for what you get, at £295 (probably cheaper in the US). as for ASTS armed decks, so the one bad part is that you get slightly more record wear... so what else is bad? it NEVER skips, you wont have all these problems with tonearm setup, or the tonearm being screwed in transit. and if you use the right carts it wont fuck your records. so, why NOT for mixing? and yes, PDX2000's ARE MORE USEFUL THAN A 1200/1210. to get any amount of usefulness out of a 1210 you have to shell out £475 on a m5g.

A PCV-275 is € 479,-- over here. I call that rather expensive.

And what else is bad at an ASTS arm? An ASTS arm is ONLY in the right position when you place the needle in the middle of the record. FOR THE REST the arm is NOT in the right place, causing MAJOR wear and VERY bad sound quality. If you check out a presentation on an ASTS turntable, you can ALWAYS see they place the needle in the middle of the record (which is precisely what scratchers need!). For mixing, the major wear doesn't measure up to the "never skipping"-theory.

By the way, with a good turntable you NEVER have any problems with a tonearm setup (that's only with real shitty tt's, like a Gemini XL-500, Numarks, and so on).

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And about the Pioneer CDJ100's,y is it gonna be a waste of cash?

If you only use them at home, yes. Rather have a CDJ-800 (less expesive and doesn't have all those features you hardly use).

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Originally posted by DjVash And what else is bad at an ASTS arm? An ASTS arm is ONLY in the right position when you place the needle in the middle of the record. FOR THE REST the arm is NOT in the right place, causing MAJOR wear and VERY bad sound quality. If you check out a presentation on an ASTS turntable, you can ALWAYS see they place the needle in the middle of the record (which is precisely what scratchers need!). For mixing, the major wear doesn't measure up to the "never skipping"-theory. By the way, with a good turntable you NEVER have any problems with a tonearm setup (that's only with real shitty tt's, like a Gemini XL-500, Numarks, and so on).

well i own 2 ASTS decks (pdx2000) and 1 S shape arm deck (m5g). the difference in sound quality is not massive at all, and i have also heard both of these decks used in a club, again its not a big difference. i wouldn't call the record wear major, as i said if you use the right carts its not a problem. granted there will be more record wear than an s shaped arm, but i have used these decks for a year and they havent worn my records out as much as my old decks with s shaped arms, purely because i have chosen the right cart.

as for tonearm setup problems... i woudn't expect you to have seen this seeing as you havent been here long, but there has been many threads about technics 1200/1210's that have been screwed up after being shipped accross america. if anything i would expect more to get screwed up on a 1210 than on a cheaper deck, simply because there is more to go wrong.

on a sidenote, cdj100's is what he was talking about (not 1000's ), and yes they are a waste of money. they will last a long time, but they are boring, featureless and annoying. for less money you can buy an numark axis9, which has everything a cdj100 has and shit loads more. primarily a scratch cue function (stutter cue is wank) and more than 3 (crap) effects which are in the cdj100. i have written a post directly comparing the two somewhere if you want to use the search button

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Originally posted by Krowster Well...decks shouldn't be a problem now since I know what to get and where to get them from;however, where am i gonna get my vinyls from?Ive seen the ones being sold in OHM records and they'r mostly house. Im looking for trance tunes! Its very unfortunate for me to be living in Dubai where hardly any1 lsns to trance and its not easy to find what i want.

I get most of my vinyl off of the internet with the majority of my collection has come from dancegrooves.com. Others I can think of off the top of my head are only-djs.com, chemical-records.co.uk and for vinly I have trouble finding I usually hit up E-bay. If you want a better list of online stores check the Online Stores Info thread up around the top of this forum.

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Originally posted by tu_face well i own 2 ASTS decks (pdx2000) and 1 S shape arm deck (m5g). the difference in sound quality is not massive at all, and i have also heard both of these decks used in a club, again its not a big difference. i wouldn't call the record wear major, as i said if you use the right carts its not a problem. granted there will be more record wear than an s shaped arm, but i have used these decks for a year and they havent worn my records out as much as my old decks with s shaped arms, purely because i have chosen the right cart. as for tonearm setup problems... i woudn't expect you to have seen this seeing as you havent been here long, but there has been many threads about technics 1200/1210's that have been screwed up after being shipped accross america. if anything i would expect more to get screwed up on a 1210 than on a cheaper deck, simply because there is more to go wrong. on a sidenote, cdj100's is what he was talking about (not 1000's ), and yes they are a waste of money. they will last a long time, but they are boring, featureless and annoying. for less money you can buy an numark axis9, which has everything a cdj100 has and shit loads more. primarily a scratch cue function (stutter cue is wank) and more than 3 (crap) effects which are in the cdj100. i have written a post directly comparing the two somewhere if you want to use the search button

Send me your oldest record and we'll compare it with my oldest record under a microscope. I used to have a client just like you. He was pretty silent when he looked through the microscope though

And my bad about the CDJ's. :P
However if they aren't new, they aren't a real waste of money. They're actually kinda funny and pretty good to mix with. Even for a CD player without anti shock, it can still take a lot of abuse. They're pretty reliable as well, a lot of drive in shows use this player. However, I did notice a great difference in performance of this player's laser: One unit can take more then the other. That's kinda weird and it makes me questioning Pioneer's QC on this unit (I can't find this problem anywhere with a CDJ-800/1000).

If they ARE new, you'd better get an American DJ PSX. I consider the Pioneer a little too expensive. The American DJ is cheaper and does the same, with a better QC on the laserworks.

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i think using computer programs when you first start out is a very good idea, even though it doesn't teach you to beatmatch, you can learn how tracks go together etc. I think if i hadn't have mixed on the computer for 5 months before i got my decks, i would probably have given up by now, its so frustrating when you get everything beatmatched and then cue it wrong, do that so many times and you'll probably get pretty pissed off.

So i say yeah, you are going down the right route

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Originally posted by DjVash Send me your oldest record and we'll compare it with my oldest record under a microscope. I used to have a client just like you. He was pretty silent when he looked through the microscope though

i don't give a shit what they look like. i know how they sound.

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Originally posted by tu_face i don't give a shit what they look like. i know how they sound.

If you can se the outer grooves being scraped out and the center grooves being pretty normal, it gives a fair indication of how a record used to sound and how it sounds now, wouldn't you agree?

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