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Originally posted by montana read the sig

it's a good job some of us can see past the sarcasm of that wanker, if everyone who got into edm actually read his stuff they might believe it and not be able to make their own paths through music in their own times.

Ferry might as well do another collaboration with John Ewbank -- after all, they did do "Ligaya" together. I wonder what else they can pull out of the hat together, but it'd likely deviate from the archetypes of "uplifting, melodic" trance they have already created to run a low risk of duplication.

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Oh you mean Tiesto had nothing to do with the production of Ligaya ??? this is maybe one of my all-time favorite tracks...
Airbase remix though

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I don't see why people care, sure they created some legendary tracks but most of guess that egos clashed, which happens in music all the time and if they don't want to work with each other for any reason then so be it. Personally they should stay away if they are going to make crap like Ligaya

i don't really care about their egoes or whatever, i just want to know what was the truth behind it for my cover
i don't even like Tiesto...he's so over-rated
IMO Ligaya is a great classic track !
just because it was on mtv, doesn't make it commercial or not good.
"Out Of The Blue" also had a clip for tv, and i can't emagine someone saying this is a crapy tune...

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Tiesto did not participate in the studio for the making of Ligaya and this has been explained really elaborately on some previous threads... as well as up here, chalk it up to "new directions" and "being too busy" and "creative differences" and so on and soforth. So yes, it was Ferry and John Ewbank. I do not know offhand who else was involved or if there were any uncredited other talents.

Of course, as a certain Vangelis expert told me, the melody of "Tenshi" comes from "Light & Shadow" off of Vangy's 1492 soundtrack. The harmonic flow is quite similar.

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I talked to Ferry a few months ago and asked about the Gouryella album. He said there were plans once (by both Tiesto & him), but they've been postponed indefinitely because they're both too busy. But he also said it wasn't impossible.

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Originally posted by mighty_max "Out Of The Blue" also had a clip for tv, and i can't emagine someone saying this is a crapy tune...

I would say its crap. Not everyone likes generic bullshit trance you know.

they were arguing about who sucks less
it was a tie
they both suck equally

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Originally posted by Ian^ it's a good job some of us can see past the sarcasm of that wanker, if everyone who got into edm actually read his stuff they might believe it and not be able to make their own paths through music in their own times.

Translation: "Ishkur pokes fun at my favorite genre so everything he says is a lie."

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Originally posted by Radagast Translation: "Ishkur pokes fun at my favorite genre so everything he says is a lie."

You're like the new Mattsanity, only with a little less poor taste and a little more troll. A commendable effort.

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Originally posted by Radagast Translation: "Ishkur pokes fun at my favorite genre so everything he says is a lie."

no, Translation is

"Ishkur is very opinionated and known for not being the best guide for trance music in general, thus making it an unreliable source, it's like asking a manchester united fan if they should've been beaten by arsenal cos you know it's a an opinionated bias and whilst he may have some genres correctly, his use of others demonstrates an ignorance that would damage anyone who doesn't know better"

you can't deny that either, I know he's trying to rock the boat and i know he succeeds with some people, but to say he calls it like it is or anything like that is a lie