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Kerry and his flip-flopping which is widely accepted as being his biggest problem...

Widely accepted by who??? Conservatives?

Furthermore, and more to the point, the POINT of your thread was to demonstrate an instance of this wishy-washy behaviour now wasn't it? Thus, you can't use, as a starting assumption the fact that he's wishy washy to justify the interpretation of the BUTs being used!!! That's called begging the question, and obviously constitutes an erroneous argument. I'm sounding like Diginut here, but you get the point

From what I've been reading (even though yes, I do swing to the right of center, pretty weird eh?) Kerry has great debating skills but doesn't appear to give whole, concrete answers.
Shouldn't a leader (in any forum) have a solid foundation for which they represent?

Of those conservatives that choose to dissect Kerry verbatim-adnaseum, there is one constant; Kerry's indecision on certain policies.

Just about any Googling will prove the point but just for humour's sake...

http://politicalhumor.about.com/library/graphics/kerry_57positions.jpg

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The grey rain-curtain of this world rolls back, and all change to silver glass...and then you see it...
...white shores...and beyond...the far green country under a swift sunrise."

Do they post the ends of those sentences? I'll try one.

For example:

"I'll never give a veto to any country over our security. But . . ."

But...It important to try diplomacy with the U.N. for longer than George Bush did so that I can get elected, when in truth I've said on a number of occasions that I'd make the exact same decisions today that I made over the last 4 years that Dubya's been in office.

Fun, ain't it!

"I'll never give a veto to any country over our security. But I also know how to lead those alliances."

source

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Originally posted by St_Andrew "I'll never give a veto to any country over our security. But I also know how to lead those alliances." source

Sounds like a pie in the sky to me. I was reading between the lines based on his track record.

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"I'll never give a veto to any country over our security. But I also know how to lead those alliances."

Alright, I think that puts a nail in this thread's coffin. Wishy Washy flip flopper based on THIS? I think not. Anyway, next...

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Originally posted by St_Andrew "I'll never give a veto to any country over our security. But I also know how to lead those alliances." source

Unfortunately, he's speaking hypothetically.
It would be nice to think that though.

Trying to gain trust with a "world-public opinion" poll such as the U.N. is like trying to herd cats.
Kerry makes is sound so simple...coming from the same man who voted yes in the Senate to authorize the use of force in Iraq and then decides that he opposes the operation...

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"...End? No, the journey doesn't end here. Death is just another path...one that we all must take.
The grey rain-curtain of this world rolls back, and all change to silver glass...and then you see it...
...white shores...and beyond...the far green country under a swift sunrise."

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Originally posted by Fir3start3r No but ....

Someone is catching on...

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"...End? No, the journey doesn't end here. Death is just another path...one that we all must take.
The grey rain-curtain of this world rolls back, and all change to silver glass...and then you see it...
...white shores...and beyond...the far green country under a swift sunrise."

I saw Kerry's long nails 2weeks ago on tv
on the debate they were short...

Kerry flip flops

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Originally posted by ZinG I saw Kerry's long nails 2weeks ago on tv on the debate they were short... Kerry flip flops

Somewhat humourous (I suppose) but unproductive...
Anything you'd really like to add?

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"...End? No, the journey doesn't end here. Death is just another path...one that we all must take.
The grey rain-curtain of this world rolls back, and all change to silver glass...and then you see it...
...white shores...and beyond...the far green country under a swift sunrise."

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Originally posted by Fir3start3r Just about any Googling will prove the point but just for humour's sake...

oh so true