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Dj Thy
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Registered: May 2001
Location: Belgium, Earth

Oh, btw, if the problems of your 40+ tracks persist, and you track it down to harddisks maxing out there are two easy things to consider (and that will solve the problem 9 times out of 10).

First of all, I see a lot of people working à la Protools : 40 complete audio tracks, with constant audio regions. Meaning that even when there is silence, it's still part of the rendered audio files.
Well, it might look cleaner, but it's really not good for performance. An audio file containing silence is still an audio file, so it needs to be accessed on the HD... So, cut out the silence, and keep only parts where there is actually something going on as regions (strip silence is a godsend here). It's pretty rare that there are 40+ audio "events" going on AT ONCE.

Second, if all else fails, keep in mind that a harddrive has a limited transfer rate. If you need more than that, the only solution is to get a second harddrive and run some of the audio files from that one. In other words, your audio files are spread over two harddisks (do not select copy to working directory, but leave them in a space you selected for that purpose only). The audio files will be spread out, the workload also.

But usually, the first method is already enough to solve most probs.

Old Post Oct-06-2004 23:36  Belgium
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dannyc
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Location: dublin, ireland

thanks dj thy

you must be a mind reader cause thats the next question i was gonna ask. i've got to about 20 audio tracks but from then my cpu is maxing out, i persume this is when the vst performance bar goes over into the red cause i can see it and thats when the clicking starts again.

when you say delete the silences, can i do this within cubase by just splitting audio events and deleting silences from here or do i have to do it before i import audio track???

i actually have 2 hard-drives going at the moment 1 20G and 1 external 20G. my internal harddrive is practically full and this is were i have my audio files saved, would it make a difference if i moved the audio files to the less fuller external drive, i.e. iv'e got 3G free on internal drive and 13G free on external drive??

also would upgrading my soundcard have any effect on this problem?
and finally my friend said a good idea is to combine as many audio tracks as one, i dont like this idea cause i wanna mix and master the whole song rather than in sections. how would i do this anyway, would it be just export selected audio tracks in cubase as audio and re-import them??

thanks again

Old Post Oct-07-2004 07:14  Ireland
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hardikaveri
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Registered: Sep 2004
Location: espoo

do you have win xp? or 2000?

i have heard that people have proeblems with winxp and cubase sx2. their have to change their xp to win2000 to run sx2 proper way.


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Dj Thy
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Originally posted by dannyc
thanks dj thy
when you say delete the silences, can i do this within cubase by just splitting audio events and deleting silences from here or do i have to do it before i import audio track???

also would upgrading my soundcard have any effect on this problem?
and finally my friend said a good idea is to combine as many audio tracks as one, i dont like this idea cause i wanna mix and master the whole song rather than in sections. how would i do this anyway, would it be just export selected audio tracks in cubase as audio and re-import them??

thanks again


Just in the arrangement is fine. You just need to make sure that the sequencer doesn't have to play the file even when there's silence. If you just cut out the silences in the arrangement, he'll just be accessing the harddisks for the file when there is actually a region in the arrangement.
Make sure your HD's are defragmented too, as that will influence things a bit too.

A decent soundcard will help a bit indeed. You just need one that has solid audio drivers. What card you take is really dependent on what you want to do (how many i/o, possibility to play games next to it). M-Audio make good ones, the new EMU cards are really one of the best deals around nowadays... The audigy can cut it, but it's still a card mainly aimed at consumers that want to game, and make music occasionally.

I don't know if you found out this option already, but there is a process called "disable track" in the audio menu I think. Muting doesn't remove the track from cpu load, disable does. You can re enable the track later. It's a good option to see how many simultaneous tracks your comp can pull. Just disable most tracks, and reenable them one by one, until you find out what will be your maximum.

What your friend suggested is indeed a solution, but only the last resort, because as you said it, you'll already have to make mixing decisions there, including effects. If ever you find out that the balance wasn't right, or this or that effect could be better, you'll need to revert to a former project to solve the problem and re export.
You basically got it right : in cubase, the audio export is basically "what you hear". Muted tracks wont be included in the export. But you see the problem right? You already need to do a mix, and you're not even capable of doing that right now due to your problems. So the only choice is making the bounce in whatever program your audio files came from earlier.

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dannyc
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i'll say it again your the man thy.

managed to get 38 audio tracks running by stripping out the silences, your right it is a godsent. all i need to do is but my kick drum in, which will probably push the cpu a bit more. i might have to do some more optimising thou cause in the most intense part of the tune with most instruments going my cpu is maxing out again. any other things i can do?? maybe disabling all background preference would that help??

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