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Originally posted by Blik ehh, how the hell can yo compare those two things with eachother....??? so irrelevant to eachother, the WTC-attack was an attack against a whole nation and actually against all the western countries, cause they caused a financial crisis all over the world

Exactly.

By the way, demagoguery is a bad thing. Just thought I'd say that.

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Originally posted by Blik ehh, how the hell can yo compare those two things with eachother....??? so irrelevant to eachother, the WTC-attack was an attack against a whole nation and actually against all the western countries, cause they caused a financial crisis all over the world

Im sure that this little girl felt more pain than the ppl that got an airplane into theyr office........still...i dont say that we should forget about WTC......but alot of ppl die in painfull ways.....
But this was alot of "important" americans......
Since no-one quoted my last reply i take it as i had a point there....

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hey guys, it's fine by me if you want to live your violent lifes the way you do

and i'm not even highly surprised that you can't make that comparison between those 2 things, because you are thinking way to general about all this....a well....nevermind because i can't express myself the way i want to sjeesh grrrrrr my english keeps failing on me whenever i try to discribe how i feel.....would it be psychological?

and eugene....don't you be throwing difficult words in my face

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Originally posted by mindshooter Im sure that this little girl felt more pain than the ppl that got an airplane into theyr office........still...i dont say that we should forget about WTC......but alot of ppl die in painfull ways.....

This is basically as far removed from the Sept. 11 reality as you can get. I sincerely wish, mindshooter, that you'll be equally far removed from tragedy like this throughout your life.

This is how many Americans used to think about Israel and the Palestinians before Sept. 11. "Yes, those terrorist explosions at restaurants are pretty bad, but why does it concern me? - a lot of people die in painful ways..." They don't think like that anymore...

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Miss P. have it in Dutch, in the Holland Forum, we have a little discussion about it too.........so you can express your feelings about it in your best language

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Originally posted by Miss Proximus hey guys, it's fine by me if you want to live your violent lifes the way you do and i'm not even highly surprised that you can't make that comparison between those 2 things, because you are thinking way to general about all this....a well....nevermind because i can't express myself the way i want to sjeesh grrrrrr my english keeps failing on me whenever i try to discribe how i feel.....would it be psychological? and eugene....don't you be throwing difficult words in my face

demagoguery is the action of saying a lot of things, of preaching a lot of things but not doing anything towards making those words facts! (well this is the best definition I can give..)

I have to hold my comments to myself. I have posted stuff about this all around the forums, where threads abouu 9/11 where made. the kind of thing america faced on that day was something amy person a little open-minded could have seen coming. and will happen again if usa won't stop interfering world wide (the word would be Universal Cop).

and these attacks against Taliban are pretty much just a proof of raw violence. it is true that at this point they might be easy to get, but in order to finish off terrorism, usa should kill not only Osama Bin Laden but every single muslim that celebrated on 9/11. because they do not stop when the leader is dead, they stop when they all are dead.

and I doubt USA or anyone has either the power or the RIGHT to do so! no matter the reason?

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Originally posted by Blik Miss P. have it in Dutch, in the Holland Forum, we have a little discussion about it too.........so you can express your feelings about it in your best language

So now I'm suddenly welcome again....

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Originally posted by Miss Proximus So now I'm suddenly welcome again....

I can't recall that I said that you weren't welcome.......and for good discussions you are always welcome

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Originally posted by cweb First of all: Miss Proximus, would you please marry me? Seriously, I support your ideas. We will have to wait and see (and not through america-propaganda-cnn) what exactly the US bomb and what their targets are. But somehow I'm a bit confident, because its like the first time the US has been attacked itself, and perhaps they realise that they HAVE TO look for real reasons, and not bombing a country to stone age, when its already there. But as i have learned these days, THRUST NO ONE! And it make me sick, how especially the fucking tony blair asshole, crawls directly into doublejius ass. It seems, that everytime the US bomb st away, the british gov. is really happy and joined without even thinking for themselves. Sorry to all you brits (and of course us-citizens too), its by no means an insult to you, you=the folk, lol, have not the power, some elite have. And I really hate politicians (fuck them all, fuck for example this schröder-dumbfuck). I mean these attacks on the WTC are some really bad bullshit, and they have to die (but first you habve to find them!), but this assholes of western politicians act like they are the GOOD, but they are perhaps as evil as these other forces (not the same way, and of course not this obviously). The money and the economie has way too much power these days, look at my local swissair debacel, just because some asshole bankiers. And I wanted to study ecomie myself, perhaps I should reconsider this decision and study something useful, like how to help animals survive. I hate those guys, I have to stop here.

i think you have a good point d00d...

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Originally posted by Eugene This is basically as far removed from the Sept. 11 reality as you can get. I sincerely wish, mindshooter, that you'll be equally far removed from tragedy like this throughout your life. This is how many Americans used to think about Israel and the Palestinians before Sept. 11. "Yes, those terrorist explosions at restaurants are pretty bad, but why does it concern me? - a lot of people die in painful ways..." They don't think like that anymore...

All i say is that im not sure America will only hit Military target and the media will tell that they DID wheter they did it or not....

And i also think that we shouldn think more of ppl just because they are americans or just because they have better jobs......

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Ok...w8...one more thing.......

The reason why the terrorists attacked the US must be cause they KNOW that the US and the whole WORLD will get pissed right?

They know that US is so proud and wants to keep theyr pride....
They can stand on theyr own feets etc etc......what bush didnt even mention in his speech was that he had help from several europena countries! He didnt mention sweden even though we sent resuce personell to help the amreican poeple! INstead he said something about that they could handle this and that they can stand on theyr own feet......

Off course US was the main target!!

Imagine this:

Hostage situation

100 hostages... Terrorist demands 100.000.000$ for the hostages.....
Otherwise all of them will get shot......ok.......Bush says:
We dont care...shotem all..... After the killing the police goes in and arrests all the terrorists......

Would terrorists EVER take hostages in the US again?

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kinda off topic but, if terroists in a hostage situation actually get the money, how do they get away without being arrested?