Also, the reason why you're getting a lot of eJay bashing is becuase eJay is for kids (basically) real producers use very little samples and compose/produce the synth sounds themselves using real synthesizers..
if you want to progress the music you do so you can actually call it "yours" read the "Read here before you post" sticky on the top of this forum
I started with eJay as well. It's a great tool for learning how music works, structures etc. but it's only a starter tool.
Some versions have drum machines and some sorth of synths as well so you can make original music with it as well. It's just that the synths are very simple and you're always restricted to the 140bpm base tempo.
pick up a copy of fl studio and start twiddling. the possibilities here are much much much more than you have with ejay because you can create your own loops and instruments. in ejay you are piecing together a song out of a bunch of utility loops.
euro trance - 140 to 145 bpm. very prominent kick and usually offbeat bassline and offbeat open hats. usually a detuned saw wave lead. you can create these in a VSTi such as reFX Vanguard. check out the demo to see if you like it. usually has a (cheesy) vocal hook. often has an acid line (which you can make in vanguard or something like muon tau which is free). this genre resembles some types of happy hardcore in the off bass and the tr-909 type snares. run a search on the internet for those. you will find them pretty quickly.
progressive trance - 130 to 140 bpm. typically slower than euro trance with longer, evolving kinds of leads. often a rolling kind of bassline but is predominantly lead and pad driven. you can create pretty thick lush pads using a combination of vanguard and lunoxix ravity. ravity does string orchestral sounds pretty well straight out of the box. layer them using chords to achieve various levels of saturated sound and fiddle with the auto pan in fruity and the stereo enhancer or buzz effect adaptor to make it a little more alive.
hard trance - similar to euro trance but much faster with a more cutting edge. typically 150 to 155 bpm. like euro trance its very much driven by a prominant lead riff and a harder kick and a rolling bassline. vanguard again can make do alot of this stuff.
Oct-11-2004 23:37
Vizay
immiNspired
Registered: Dec 2001
Location: Stockholm & in my mind
okay you can choose to go either the hard and sometimes boring way or the easy but prolly more fun way.
the hard way would be to just get yourself a copy of reason/FL studio/cubase/logic and learn the hard way by trial and error. This can be boring as fuckin hell but it'll prolly get you faster to a stage when your tunes sound pretty good and as your own
the easy but longer way would be to just start playing around in ejay and go from there. It's the worst program ever made imho but it doesn't matter what I think. I started out there and when I used it I didn't think that about it so
wichever way you choose is really up to you so don't listen to much to the people here. Many users here tend to forget two things. We have all been newbies once and most important, it's not what you use it's how you use it (well at least to a certain extent )
just make shure you have fun all the way mate
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i suggest getting the gabriel & dresden prog-a-minute. in 3 easy steps you too could change the face of dance music.
batteries not included.
- dave
Oct-12-2004 02:30
dbl
Whitesun
Registered: Dec 2001
Location: Gothenburg/sweden
who hasn't used e-jay sometimes????
but it's not a program to produce with really... but can be a great tool too learn with...
but as vizay said.. be sure you have fun all the way while learning
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Oct-12-2004 13:54
Bruchpilot
Stufe 3 Veganer
Registered: Jan 2004
Location: Berlin
after half an hour I was finished with ejay, because I wanted something it didnt give me, so I switched over to fruity
Oct-12-2004 16:27
Project 7
Oakie, Oakie, Oakie!
Registered: Sep 2004
Location:
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Originally posted by Sonicstyle
after half an hour I was finished with ejay, because I wanted something it didnt give me, so I switched over to fruity
what creavity?
Oct-12-2004 16:33
Bruchpilot
Stufe 3 Veganer
Registered: Jan 2004
Location: Berlin
I wanted to do own loops and melodies, not just put the standard things, and ejay didnt give me that, so I looked for something better
