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Originally posted by ctprincess armin has always impressed me with his track selection and his ability to constuct a set with a beginning, middle and end. i like the variety - i easily get bored with hearing just all trance. so - armin is my #1 trance dj - plus, he's as cute as shit!

Do you guys usually roll or anything? Is that why you prefer peaks and valleys in an entire set? I personally have never tried any drugs except ganga(only twice).I usually just escort my lovely lady vodka into the parties. I like everthing but in my opinion every trance song has a peak and valley section in the individual song itself. I guess thats one of the main reasons i like trance in the first place.

I would suggest the "true" trance is something of a mathematical construct. Its a center point in a spectrum of music and very few tracks or DJs are dead on the point.

Its like a class where half the students got a "D" and the other half got a "B". The average grade was a "C", yet no one single person got a "C".

I usually go with my emotional reaction to the DJ. If he makes me want to dance until I'm sore.. it was trance. If it makes want to wear a fur-lined hat and a shit eating grin while I just sort of undulate at half or one quarter the BPM... it was house.

But, what the hell do I know? I'm just saying the divisions between the types seem quite fuzzy to me.

I like Tiesto's recorded stuff, but that's all I've heard of him. I know DJs can be really different live. But I'd have to agree that the energy coming from the DJ is important to the trance state of mind. AVB shook and grooved the whole show, so did Markus. Seeing them so into the music increases the depth that I get into the music. They were giving us something they themselves loved and that makes it a bit special to me.

Anyway, I suspect the ability to ID all the tracks is an artifact of the information age more than anything else. Hot new tracks explode across the internet rather than languish in some obscure record store until a resourceful DJ happens upon it.

Peace.

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Originally posted by XtremeNINja27 Do you guys usually roll or anything? Is that why you prefer peaks and valleys in an entire set? I personally have never tried any drugs except ganga(only twice).I usually just escort my lovely lady vodka into the parties. I like everthing but in my opinion every trance song has a peak and valley section in the individual song itself. I guess thats one of the main reasons i like trance in the first place.

i think it's pretty safe to say that the majority of the tranceaddicts do not need drugs to enjoy the music. the people that need drugs to enjoy it are the ones who are not that passionate about it in the first place.

personally i have experienced sets when i was super-f#$%^ked-outofmymind, as well as being stone-cold-sober, and it doesn't change my opinion of the music or the way a good set is constructed. no one wants to stand there and hear a bunch of songs mashed together in a way that doesn't make sense, playing hit after hit. the valleys and peaks that we experience are a construction of many songs put together in a way that almost tells a story. it's the soundtrack of our night and the DJ must feed off of the crowds' reaction to determine in what direction he will take his set.

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Originally posted by Zilax I usually go with my emotional reaction to the DJ. If he makes me want to dance until I'm sore.. it was trance. If it makes want to wear a fur-lined hat and a shit eating grin while I just sort of undulate at half or one quarter the BPM... it was house. But, what the hell do I know? I'm just saying the divisions between the types seem quite fuzzy to me. I like Tiesto's recorded stuff, but that's all I've heard of him. I know DJs can be really different live. But I'd have to agree that the energy coming from the DJ is important to the trance state of mind. AVB shook and grooved the whole show, so did Markus. Seeing them so into the music increases the depth that I get into the music. They were giving us something they themselves loved and that makes it a bit special to me. Anyway, I suspect the ability to ID all the tracks is an artifact of the information age more than anything else. Hot new tracks explode across the internet rather than languish in some obscure record store until a resourceful DJ happens upon it.

Zilax, very well said!

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Originally posted by lücid personally i have experienced sets when i was super-f#$%^ked-outofmymind, as well as being stone-cold-sober, and it doesn't change my opinion of the music or the way a good set is constructed. no one wants to stand there and hear a bunch of songs mashed together in a way that doesn't make sense, playing hit after hit. the valleys and peaks that we experience are a construction of many songs put together in a way that almost tells a story. it's the soundtrack of our night and the DJ must feed off of the crowds' reaction to determine in what direction he will take his set.

exactly. i think armin is the master of trance dj's when it comes to telling a story. i was a little worried in may - his may set was hit after hit - no story, no nothing - most likely due to his plane issues.

but, on saturday he had 4+ hours to spin and you could tell that he wasn't just throwing records on. he played some trance, some techno and some tribal tracks and it didn't just sound like a mish-mash of tracks either. and i was pretty sober the entire night - only 4 drinks in 4 hours

only disappointment of the night - encore was burned with desire - he ended his may set with that same cheesy song!

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Originally posted by lücid i think it's pretty safe to say that the majority of the tranceaddicts do not need drugs to enjoy the music. the people that need drugs to enjoy it are the ones who are not that passionate about it in the first place.

Couldnt agree more, just wondering where you guys stood since i never met any of you yet.

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Originally posted by mb2004 Armin is about 2 years behind Tiesto, whom are both another two years behind PVD, whom are both 1 year behind Digweed, whom are 2 years behind Oakenfold whom is at #8 right now.

perfect!! perfecto!! couldint have said better

download a live tiesto set from a club or event in europe and you will see why he is the number one dj in the world. he plays so different over there so much harder its unreal!

If you download a set 3 to 6 months later you'll get half the same songs to remember the last set by.

Also, don't you think a true #1 DJ would play "unreal" anywhere, rather than just in Europe?

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Originally posted by ctprincess only disappointment of the night - encore was burned with desire - he ended his may set with that same cheesy song!

I thought he closed with No one on Earth in may, and in Feb. he closed with Burned, either way both are kinda cheesey, but I enjoy both very much!!

I believe this thread originated based on their last sets in Chicago at Vision. If that is the case, this can be summed up in 3 words: Grey Goose Vodka. Tiesto played some good tracks, but he drank too much that night and was getting really sloppy at the end. That's the only time I've seen him so I can't judge overall, as I've heard some good sets recorded elsewhere. Armin was very good and I've gotta agree with the story method that a few other people have noted. I'm not sure why P. Diddy was part of the last story, but othwerwise it's in my opinion the best way to mix. I always like to mix and make CDs for those long hours at work where it starts off with maybe a calm Chicane song and somehow get to the so-called "boom boom boom" style of PVD by the middle. As for drugs, I used to be almost embarrassed to tell people that I liked a lot of EDM because of the perception by many people that say "oh, drugs and glowsticks." But then it's great when you play some songs for them and they're shocked by how good it is. Drinking is more than enough for me and apparently for Tiesto as well.

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The best party I have been by far was Tiesto - House of Blues 2003 ! If someone recorded this you must listen to it! MASSIVE

That was f#ckin insane !!

That is what really pushed me into becoming a Tiesto whore and what ultimetly led to my major dispppointment with him at his last performace here. He programmed the 2003 set beautifully. The energy was amazing. He moved around within styles gracefully. He went from dirty sticky floors to some booty shakin chicago style house music. He just was dropin massive track after massive track. He was just having so much fun as were we !! He was so enguaged with the crowd it was heart warming! Everyone was jumping around and dancin; the floor felt like it was going to collapse !! I will remeber that night forever.


Paul Van Dyk in Chicago is f#ckin awesome too. He seems to really play good sh!t when he comes here. His last set here at sound-bar was awesome. I was dancin the whole night. I was just pissed at him for playing to much techno when I flew out to see him in NYC, I blame the raver crowd and the sh!tty weather



PVD and Tiesto are two DJ's that I hope will come back to the city soon.

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