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Originally posted by DJ Cinos Name an advanced track like that.

i was talking about ferry's collab with a classical composer, for the track "gouryella - ligaya"

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Originally posted by Romain i was talking about ferry's collab with a classical composer, for the track "gouryella - ligaya"

Oh, I thought you meant ANY producer. Okay.

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Originally posted by DJ Cinos Just to add some spice to the whole thing, I forwarded this to him. The comment he gave me was "if you say a lot of trance is much evolved than metal music you really haven't listened to metal at all"

well I think we are all under estimating metal here since we are all kinda skewed towards EDM. There are tons of metal geniuses out there. Look no further than Pantera with Dimebag, the dude has won every guitar contest in texas, he still plays solos, and if you ever listent o cemetary gates or Floods, you can tell he has been a genius and still is one.



if you want to switch to softer rock, look at Incubus, the chords that guitarist come up with are insane, they are purely amazing, so distinct and jazzy influeced.

if you wanna step into harder metal than that, if you decipher cannibal corpse you will find some amazing talent. The time and dedication they spend on the music....they are always in the studio, and on tour, they have a pure love for the music and play it at its best. Along with morbid angel and tons of others that i could go on and on about. those guys get so creative with the guitar....my brother is actually in a death metal band and I have to say, is really quite talented at the guitar, so ive seen the process of making the songs, and it is evolved, it is not just slapped together like you think. There is a lot to it when you break it apart. but I doubt anyone has taken the time to or kept a real objective open mind.




also if you wanna include some blues into this....Stevie ray vaughn...OMGiDIE. hehe, but thats not really metal like i guess, but everyone must respecta da blues...hehe, plus im listening to some right now.



just remember, not everyone is gonna like the music you like, just like you don't like all the music everyone else likes.

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Originally posted by chavs Can anybody ID the track that goes "Chime Chime Chime" all the time?

i've been looking for that one for ages

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Originally posted by Romain i was talking about ferry's collab with a classical composer, for the track "gouryella - ligaya"

Likely that track will make him puke, as it should. If you already showed him some shitty epic trance track, then this shitty one won't change his mind.

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Originally posted by Radagast Likely that track will make him puke, as it should. If you already showed him some shitty epic trance track, then this shitty one won't change his mind.

oh sorry.. i guess you're a tough guy - not a newbie, hell not! - and you only listen to REAL trance (hell yeah!)



i chose that track as the melody's very good, ferry knows his thing when it's about chord progressions. + the fact it's been inspired a lot by classical music adds to the credibilty.

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Originally posted by Romain trust me i've been discussing/arguing a lot of times with metal/rock lovers.

Interesting....please expand.

I'm a trance DJ and producer, not as much of a rock fan (although I play guitar and enjoy some bands), but to be honest I think that as far as technical musicality goes, rock/metal is more evolved. The construction of trance music is pretty basic, usually just a natural minor scale is used, over a 4, 8, or sometimes 16 bar progression, that hardly changes, and no accidentals, suspensions, diminished/augmented chords, added 6ths, 7ths, 9ths or 11ths, etc, are used in 90% of trance, whereas rock music uses a lot of that stuff, and also scales such as pentatonic, blues, and some metal guitarists even use modal ideas in their solos/lines.

To be honest, most of these small discords would sound pretty bad in trance compared to the effects that they give in rock music, which is probably the reason why they're not used, but my point is that rock (I mean a lot of rock genres, not for example punk, which is mostly very simple with more emphasis on the performance than the musical talent) is as advanced as any other genre. That doesn't mean trance is worth any less merit, at the end of the day the whole point of music is making a good song, not the musical concepts involved.

Trance still sounds better though


*feels like such a music nerd posting this*

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