Registered: Feb 2003
Location: The Socialist People's Republic Of Canada
tatgirl: absolutely. Im not going to say that sound cant affect a person's hearing and that some people arent more affected than others. CLearly they are. But, my issue here mainly is the guy who talked about a lawsuit. That smack of the same logic as suing mcdonalds because they made someone fat.
Oct-18-2004 16:15
tatgirl
The Oracle
Registered: Jul 2001
Location: Washington DC
Another example: I also had a simple break in my arm from an airbag. It took 6 MONTHS to heal, what should've taken 8 weeks.
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Oct-18-2004 16:15
loconet
de la puta madre!
Registered: Jul 2002
Location: San Francisco
I also watched the same show, they did say you won't notice the damage until much later in life when the hair cells in the ear start to decrease in performance. The damage caused by the loud music will pretty much speed up and deepen the problem.
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Oct-18-2004 16:24
rabbitjoker
aural sadist
Registered: Aug 2002
Location: Toronto, ON, CANADA
I have hereditary hearing loss in my family. On my mother's side everybody above 45 has hearing aids.
Got my hearing tested a year ago, my low frequency range is borderline needing hearing aids, my high frequency range is well above normal. Audiologist said the only way someone can have a curve like that is due to hereditary hearing loss - not exposure (exposure damages across all frequency ranges).
Got fitted for custom formed 20 db and 25 db earplugs. Wear them all the time. Cost $200, but my work insurance paid for it. They are well worth it.
Before I got my hearing tested I always wondered why I eq'd the highs down and the lows up, why children talking drive me crazy and why squeals make me irate. After the test it all makes sense.
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Oct-18-2004 16:24
crazedcanuck
Dance 4 Jebus
Registered: Jul 2003
Location: Red Deer, AB
Holy fuck Jayx1, you need to pull the "plug" outta your ass...
The lawsuit comment was obviously a sarcastic reference to the fact he's spent so much time @ Viva, he's going deaf.
Idiot.
Oct-18-2004 16:25
Jayx1
Prime Minister of TOTA
Registered: Feb 2003
Location: The Socialist People's Republic Of Canada
u never know in todays world
Oct-18-2004 16:29
rabbitjoker
aural sadist
Registered: Aug 2002
Location: Toronto, ON, CANADA
IMO clubs do have a responsibility to protect patron's hearing.
Clubs should offer free or at-cost hearing protection to every person who enters the door (employee or not).
A few clubs do that - and congratulations to them. Viva has always had them available (sometimes free, sometimes for $0.25 or something cheap like that).
Clubs don't even post warnings - which would leave them open to liability.
Toronto Department of Health should start some sort of "Safe Hearing" program where they require all loud sound locations (clubs, concerts, sporting arenas, etc) to post warnings about exposure damage and partner with some hearing protection manufacturers to provide at-cost hearing protection for patrons.
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Oct-18-2004 16:31
Jayx1
Prime Minister of TOTA
Registered: Feb 2003
Location: The Socialist People's Republic Of Canada
^^^^^ Agreed
Oct-18-2004 16:31
j_spot
retired
Registered: Mar 2001
Location: Calgary
employees could probably sue on the same ground that miners in asbestos mines could. Dangers are known, and adequate safety measures arent being taken to protect those employees.
Id say it would be a WCB claim, not a lawsuit.
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Oct-18-2004 16:37
Jayx1
Prime Minister of TOTA
Registered: Feb 2003
Location: The Socialist People's Republic Of Canada
yeah but dangers are known whereas asbestos wasnt known until years later.
If employees dont bother to take precaution its their own damned fault since they know that noise can cause problems. Its up to a club to provide noise protection but if an employee doesnt use it that thats the employee's problem.
Guv has ear plugs available but i never use them. If i go deaf its my own damned fault.
Not EVERYTHING is SOMEONE else's fault you know..... take some responsibilty for yourselves.
Oct-18-2004 16:39
matty
08/09 National Beach Cham
Registered: Jun 2003
Location: back in T.O
Luckily i haven't been out that much in the last 3 or 4 years. Plus when i go i try to stay away from the speakers, i dunno if that makes any difference.
However, i look at my dad who at 55 is having serious hearing problems from playing on stage, and i wonder if i should get earplugs.
Oct-18-2004 16:42
Skipper
Supreme tranceaddict
Registered: May 2002
Location:
quote:
Originally posted by Jayx1
tatgirl: absolutely. Im not going to say that sound cant affect a person's hearing and that some people arent more affected than others. CLearly they are. But, my issue here mainly is the guy who talked about a lawsuit. That smack of the same logic as suing mcdonalds because they made someone fat.
A club as a business has the responsibility of keeping the volume at a reasonable level to protect its patrons though. There are some clubs that just push it way too far - obviously if one goes to a night club they should expect to hear loud music, but not excessively loud music.