Gyaaah, Gluegun... Different strokes for different folks.

If you try to push would-be-trancEaddicts into buying those "audiophile" headphones, some of those would-be-trancEaddicts will be VERY disappointed! When I was your age, Gluegun, I used to turn up the bass AND treble controls of my old receiver all the way to maximum, so that I could hear the bass and treble "detail" at very low volume. But since I started turning my bass and treble controls to "flat" (center position), I found that I had to turn up the volume control of that same old receiver to a MUCH higher setting just to hear any bass whatsoever. And not only did it nearly screw up my hearing, but I could never quite get used to that sound even after 12 years of doing so. And buying better-sounding, more accurate headphones only made matters worse.

As a result, sometimes very boomy, very screechy, waaaaaay overpriced headphones work best for the music listener. I could hear a BIG difference between a pair of those $20-$30 Koss UR-## series headphones (which I didn't like at all due to their very muddy sound) and a $150 (list price) pair of Sony MDR-V700DJ headphones. Although more "colored" than an $80 pair of Sony MDR-V6 headphones, I found myself more into the MDR-V700DJ's recently. I actually like them more than either the MDR-V600DJ's or the MDR-V900DJ's - the V600's are bassless and honky, while the V900's are too laid-back and midrangeless. YMMV (Your Mileage May Vary).

*reads how shadyslim has abandoned him...and has only one thing to say.*


Et Tu, Brute?

Well, I didn't say that they're the best; it's just that my personal music tastes these days are way too far into the "mainstream". And none of the music that I currently listen to (mostly classic rock, with a little jazz and a little mainstream pop, a little techno and a little rap) sound right on any of those "good" headphones! My hearing is so screwed up long before I even bought those MDR-V6's (my first "good" headphone) 11 years ago - and I could never get used to their sound! In fact, recent testing of my hearing showed that I was WAY oversensitive to the mids and WAY undersensitive to the mid-bass and the highs (compared to a person the same age as I am with "average" hearing). In other words, what good are the good headphones if you don't listen to ANY classical music whatsoever? And cans that sound great on classical actually sound HORRIBLE to my ears on most other types of music! (And yeah, I tried to like those good headphones that you recommend, but unfortunately I don't like them much - I could hear almost nothing at all below 300Hz or above 5kHz out of them.)

Oh, well... Maybe my hearing is craptacular...

Last edited by ShadySlim on Oct-11-2001 at 02:14

Wow. My greatest ally turned into a hated enemy and then a babbling fool.

All in one hour.




(JOKING! Joking... anyways, Shady, all i'm saying is that, at least listen to some stuff by Technics, IXOS, Pioneer, and Stanton if you want standard DJ headphones. And listen to the ur-20's if you want that sound cheaply... so, you've listend to the V### line, and the ur-20's, what about the others?)

Last edited by Gluegun on Oct-11-2001 at 02:36

My last few posts have been clarified...

My opinion of the V700DJ is relative to all of the other V###DJ series headphones. I still don't like them as much as I do my AKG K240DF's, Grado SR-60's or my Sony V6's... But the V700DJ is somewhat underrated by the "audiophile" crowd.

And as for "reeeeeeally boomy" bass, I find it useful not in DJing, but in listening to music inside many of the newer buses! Those newer low-floor buses have motors that emit noise well into the mid-bass - and often that interior noise is at or near the same frequency as the natural resonant frequency of the earcups on my Sony MDR-V6's. The end result? You can't hear any musical bass out of those V6's when you're riding inside one of the newer buses - only a constant resonant hum. No wonder why some people find the V6's unlistenable on a bus.

Last edited by ShadySlim on Oct-11-2001 at 02:57

if you're looking for a set of good cans just go in with music that you normally listen to and ask to try out some cans...
it's just that simple, and that's what i did... in fact, i tested out every single headphone that they had in stock
the only way to find out how a headphone will work for you is to actually try it out
and any reputable store should let you try them out first before buying

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Originally posted by DJ_Shockwav if you're looking for a set of good cans just go in with music that you normally listen to and ask to try out some cans... it's just that simple, and that's what i did... in fact, i tested out every single headphone that they had in stock the only way to find out how a headphone will work for you is to actually try it out and any reputable store should let you try them out first before buying

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Originally posted by Gluegun Wow. My greatest ally turned into a hated enemy and then a babbling fool. All in one hour. (JOKING! Joking... anyways, Shady, all i'm saying is that, at least listen to some stuff by Technics, IXOS, Pioneer, and Stanton if you want standard DJ headphones. And listen to the ur-20's if you want that sound cheaply... so, you've listend to the V### line, and the ur-20's, what about the others?)

LOL, Gluegun! Some of what I said in my posts from yesterday were true; some of what I said were concocted. (In fact, the portions of my posts from yesterday that said in paraphrase "I used to always turn the bass and treble all the way to maximum before I bought my Sony MDR-V6's" and "I was so much used to really boomy, really screechy, fairly muddy sound at the time I bought my V6's" were TRUE. So was the ENTIRE post of mine in which I had said "No wonder why some people find the MDR-V6's unlistenable on the bus".)

The problem with buying most of the headphones that you recommend is not their sound, but the stores where I always go to! None of them carry any of the models that you recommend [with the exception of the Koss UR-20's (which I didn't like, though they weren't too bad for the price) and the Sony MDR-7506's (which sounded EXACTLY the same as my 11-year-old MDR-V6's)]. Instead, those very stores have a craptacular selection of overpriced headphones! Unfortunately, I ALWAYS prefer to pay cash for the cans; my CC's had always been nearly maxed out.

Last edited by ShadySlim on Oct-11-2001 at 13:41

people, i simply asked you to tell me which is better in your opinion
not to start a new thread here about headphones!!!!!!!, if u want that you have the thread shadyslim started about best and worst headphones

so plz help me out!

DJ-energy,

If you are dead-set against getting a set of "Audiophile" DJ headphones like the Sony MDR-V6, MDR-7506, Beyerdynamic DT250-80, or the Sennheiser HD25, than I would suggest you try out the DJ headphones made by Technics, IXOS, Pioneer, Sony, and Stanton. I would suggest you go with Technics, however, but, regardless, you should TRY out these headphones--if you can try out members of both DJ-headphone camps, that'd be best.

i was planning to buy the technics rp - dj1200, i cant test out the headphones cause there is no place where i can do that here!..

i wanted to get the sony v700dj but everyone was so again'st it
and i saw the technics are very good.. so i was planning on buying'em