You would still need another turntable

I think it would just take up less space and be easier to carry around with the inbuilt mixer.

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Originally posted by A.J. You would still need another turntable

haha how dumb am i

it's still weird though, and you'd incidentally touch the vinyl while equalizing a zillion times, look how close those knobs are

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combining a cd deck and a vinyl deck in one is a great idea. other than that:

- an optical stylus. an emulation of the needle done with some sort of laser reflecting into the grooves. this would be a bit complicated, but would finish with record wear, needle skipping, etc. not exactly sure how possible this is, bt it'd be nice. the TTM-1 i guess is as close as anything is to this.

- a digital readout of analog pitch. i mean, i want the pitch on my turntable to be analog, but a readout to the nearest thousandth of a % would be great to do smaaaaalll corrections/manual pitch bend and put it back to the right place. i got used to looking at numbers while pitching when using CDJ-800s.

- pitch bend would be nice, but i can do with with the platter, vinyl, or label just fine, and learing to do it with the pitch slider.

- a way to mark down a tonearm position. ie: for cue points. even though it won't be 100% accurate, you can get pretty close. this could be useful...

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that vestax deck looks proper space age. i imagine it has an afterburner underneath it for vertical take off and landing.

but back on topic...MIDI connectivity is really just the most amazing thing. i imagine that once pitch tempo and key can be automated the DJ of tommorow will be, essentially remixing songs live. that would be the ultimate in 'playing to the crowd.' you can sort of do it right now with a copy of ableton live, a PC (maybe a few hardware or software synths, an electribe maybe) and some acapellas and dj tools. as long as you put the production hours in at the weekends you could line up some stonking stuff and because of the nature of how live works, and if the crowd is feeling hard, dirty and techy, you could swap out some loops on the pattern arrangement window and substitute them for something with a harder edge right there and then. manipulate effects live on your PC etc. this is really getting into the realms of live production though i suppose. a mate of mine just got a korg electribe and hes a DJ first and foremost. not into his production. but even he is having a blast looping funk breaks over trance classics, all midi sync'ed. and the filter cutoff is just too fun not to play with constantly.

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Originally posted by Inertia - an optical stylus. an emulation of the needle done with some sort of laser reflecting into the grooves. this would be a bit complicated, but would finish with record wear, needle skipping, etc. not exactly sure how possible this is, bt it'd be nice. the TTM-1 i guess is as close as anything is to this.

They have this:
http://www.elpj.com/
but you can't use it for DJing unfortunately. The main problem with having a normal tt with an optical stylus is tracking. It needs to know exactly how much to go inwards and how fast, which varies from record to record. It also would need to know the direction of the record(i.e. if you did a backspin, the motor moving it would need to reverse direction as well). It's a cool idea but impractical for DJing.

yeah i was thinking along the lines of some kind of optical stylus, but it would have to be very, very accurate, one day it will happen but i think its a few years down the line yet.. i would love to see a cue point system too, but again it would be very hard without having to scan the entire track to get your cue point recalled, in which case you may aswell do it yourself. i think that that it's not only turntable technology that needs to move forward, but also the cutting process, because as someone mentioned, sometimes space between grooves differs from vinyl to vinyl. they need an uber-precise standard before any of the posh optical styli/cue point storage could come into action.

the vestax QFO (deck + mixer in one tihng) is pretty swanky to look at. it is aimed at turntablists, it is definitely something new and its about time if you ask me.. not that i would really find it much use. this is why i like vestax in general, they are always trying to do something new, not being over-obsessed with a boring deck they made 15+ years ago. there is also a deck they made that can be stood up on its end at about 70 degrees.. wierd to look at but a very cool idea if you want something different. not too sure on performance, but again, hats off for groundbreaking ideas!

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When I bought my Numark CDX1 the guy in the shop said they where palnning a CDX2 which would be a hybrid version (cd and vinyl deck)

I agree and think that intergrated effects will be included on the next generation of turntables. Although I'd still prefer to have them on my mixer or a sepertae unit as it would become a bit clustered.

I also think that Stanton will soon start making decks with Final Sratch built in.

Reverse function would be nice.

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Originally posted by Inertia - a way to mark down a tonearm position. ie: for cue points. even though it won't be 100% accurate, you can get pretty close. this could be useful...

That's a pretty good idea...

Man, those vextax'es are ugly

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Originally posted by Push2005 Ik ben net terug begonnen met cassettes op te kopen... Die pitchcontrol is echt ongelofelijk !

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how do you have 2 channels when there's only 1 sound source (the vinyl)

I think it is meant to be used in between two other turntables, with it being used primarily for scratching.

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Reverse function would be nice

Numark TTX1 (and probably others) have this.

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When I bought my Numark CDX1 the guy in the shop said they where palnning a CDX2 which would be a hybrid version (cd and vinyl deck) I agree and think that intergrated effects will be included on the next generation of turntables. Although I'd still prefer to have them on my mixer or a sepertae unit as it would become a bit clustered. I also think that Stanton will soon start making decks with Final Sratch built in.

That would be awesome. I had thought about a combined CD/turntable awhile ago, it makes sense. You already have the platter and pitch control and everything, just add a few controls, LCD, some sensors, and a CD drive. It would reduce the ammount of equipment clubs and DJs would need.

It would also be cool to have MIDI or a USB port to integrate Final Scratch, as well as control the turntable via MIDI.

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another thing i would love to see in a turntable, is an automatic balancing system. it would be so easy to do, just screw in your cart, let it balance itself electronically, and then tap in the weight you wish to set it at and you're away.

little toys...

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