It's gonna be a live set at NYE in Seattle though for the special occasion. I'm looking fwd to that party too!!! I'll bring live video and live percussion with me.

Ville/Darude

dope as fuck... damn... im more stoked than i was before, i do look foward to seeing you, seatlle just plain rules

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Originally posted by Nou nem, dont you mean M.I.K.E.???? I remember u talking about him doing sets like that? Maybe u got confused?

M.I.K.E did but this guy was listed as being Darude.

Darude
I know what I saw. I played after someone listed as Darude, and I will be able to dig out the date because I don't play that often in Sweden either. It may not have been traktor but it was software (It's all the same to me) but said DJ was not spinning and did not get into it. Actually looked rather embarrassed to be there. Not to mention that the DJ was sitting down.

However, I will send you a PM to confirm dates and if it works out that it wasn't you then I will gladly issue a formal appology and state that it was may bad and pass on the detail of the promoter/club for you deal with as you see fit.
It will be embarrasing for me if I have commented out of turn on someone I haven't actually seen but I will deal with that if that's the case.
However, if it works out that it was you then I will stand by my original claim as that did not impress me.

People are praising you and I value the opinion of fellow TA's so I am slightly confused as to what's going on here. I will dig out the dates even though it is going back some but I seem to recal that it was in a fairly small place, not associated with it's Dance scene (i.e. not Gothenburg or Stockholm).

I will get back to you on this
Nem

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Ok, gone back and looked at this because I want to get to the bottom of it.

The place in question is called 'Bogrens' in Skövde / Sweden. This is a smaller club and not known for it's Trance or dance culture. I have played there once or twice and was also asked to play on the same night as Darude.
However, looking back I also see that I didn't actually play that night so that is my mistake. One of the DJs that works there actually asked me if I wanted to do it but I had to turn it down as I was in Sweden visiting family and did not have my vinyl with me.
I did however attend the venue with my Brother in law (Who also likes dance music) as I was curious to see what Darude was like and what a known name was like at a slightly odd venue.

As I said earlier, there is nothing as such wrong with the club in terms of layout but it is definately more a mainstream club and not specifically known for it's dance scene. I know some of the DJs who work there and they are local DJs who don't pride them selves on mixing skills or such like but do enjoy what they do. Just to put things into perspective one of them (Rick) has decided to try and write music for Eurovision (And the less said about that the better me thinks).

I can't remember the exact dates but Darude (assuming this was) was definately in attendance that night with laptop and CDJ. I have to confess that my knowledge of traktor and all things laptop related is very limited so whatever you had on there, you will know better than me.
While the performance was on a different level to the resident DJs I still am of the opinion that this is not a TOP 50 in the world DJ. And I have to say that I stand by my earlier opinions even though I should perhaps have been more constructive and less flippant in my remarks.
The comment 'He looks more like he was answering his e-mail' actually came from my brother-inlaw who knows nothing of DJing but I have to say that I stand by that because the performance was not good compared to what I have seen from other DJs. And according to you, traktor wasn't out then so I will have to take your word for that and assume you were doing something else.
Due to what I was seeing I lost interest very quickly and must confess I didn't stick around.

It sounds to me as if others have better experiences of your performances and I have to take that into consideration but just because you write an angry post and say prove it, don't expect that I will back down.

My facts are straight, and you have to learn to deal with criticism if someone doesn't like what you do. I see and work with a lot of DJs who are in the Top 50 and some who should be but are not. Maybe I should not have based your skills on one performance and working dance floors with music ability you will most certainly have improved and can most likely have done a better performance than you did that night. I also know the venue isn't ideal.

By the way I see you mentioned train wrecks. I don't recal bringing this up... A set can be bad form many other reasons than just trainwrecking.

I didn't like what I saw, I thought it was poor so deal with it. I'm allowed my opinion just as those people who voted you into the top 50.

Nem

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Dear Nemesis,

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I can't remember the exact dates but Darude (assuming this was) was definately in attendance that night with laptop and CDJ. I have to confess that my knowledge of traktor and all things laptop related is very limited so whatever you had on there, you will know better than me.

Yes, I played live once in Skövde in 2000 or 2001. It is possible you saw me.

Around that time I only played live electronic sets (since last year I've also been booked as a dj). I was using either CMX5000 or CDJ500S x2, DJM600 or Behringer MX1602, Korg Triton Rack or E-Mu ESi4000, Yamaha RM1x or Yamaha RS7k, a basic midikeyb or Korg Karma (can't remember which of each I had there, didn't even find one pic of that night but I had a keyb, hw-seq and a sampler + the cd-players and a mixer with me all the time) and back then I was not using the laptop (iBook) other than for having a setlist textfile open on the screen. I had background tracks and building block parts of tracks on cds and all the live stuff (loops, melodies, fx etc) programmed in the hardware sequencer and the sampler. I was also travelling with an MC back then and I don't recall leaving him home just for that one occasion. You noticed him?

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My facts are straight, and you have to learn to deal with criticism if someone doesn't like what you do. I didn't like what I saw, I thought it was poor so deal with it. I'm allowed my opinion just as those people who voted you into the top 50. ...but just because you write an angry post and say prove it, don't expect that I will back down.

Nope, of course I won't expect that. I really wanted to know what you saw because what you said didn't sound like me or my set, that's all. It still doesn't. I thought "checking my emails" and "just sitting with a blank expression all night showing no interest" was *a little harsh*. Like I said I'm sure I've had a little quieter days but I'm pretty much always happy to be on stage and I love interacting with the crowd. I decided to make a comment since you didn't really seem to know what you were talking about (Sitting? During my set? Wtf?).

I won't back down either about my "If my set didn't do it for you, well, go see someone else next time or something but get your facts straight before you come here and start talking shit about me (or anyone else)" because you didn't just make a mistake about the software I was supposedly using but the fact that you didn't realize the difference between my live set with the keyboard etc and a dj set. And you didn't even see the whole set? (You didn't "stick around")

I am sorry (for you and me both, believe me!) if you didn't like my set but trust me, if I defended myself everytime someone doesn't like my music I'd have to be online *48*/7 and I still wouldn't have time to reply to everyone. I don't like all the djs and all the bands in the world myself. You (not) liking my music or my set is not a big deal to me but that kinda inaccuracies said about my set feel pretty strange to me. Especially when you're a dj who's been in the business for long I would've thought you would've realized it was not a dj set to start with (the set being good or bad in a way doesn't even matter in that sense).

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By the way I see you mentioned train wrecks. I don't recal bringing this up...

"But I have to say that he was cheating with the beat matching and let's face it, if you are going to be in the TOp 50 DJs in the world then you have to use more than just traktor to win my vote."
Well, you are right but your above comment kinda translated to me like that (or that I would've wrecked if I hadn't used the-Traktor-I-didn't-then-know-even-existed).

Btw, of course you're entitled to your opinion of Traktor but I think you're missing out if you don't give stuff like Traktor a try (like a lot of people on the Dj Mag Top100 for eg. have). Freaking awesome stuff! What difference does it make if you control a digital file with a vinyl, a cd or a midicontroller? You still have to beatmatch (though I admit, personally I find cds easier than vinyl but that's not the reason I don't use it; I simply find vinyl impractical and limited for my use), select the tracks, program your set, interact with the audience... Why is it that using more technology (which gives you more ways to manipulate what you're playing and at the same time can help you to concentrate more on other stuff than beatmatching or physically taking records out of the crate and cueing it up manually) is so bad?

Anyway... Each to their own... In my huble opinion the media doesn't matter, the music does.

Ville/Darude

I actually have no problem with your skills as a producer, on the contrary. I play one of your tracks in my sets from time to time.

Don't actually have any personal issues with you either which is why I regret having said some of the things I did even if I feel that they are correct from my view point, I should have resisted the temptation to do so, or put them in a more constructive way.

You have indeed caught me in a bad month and while I'm not making excuses I have other things that I should probably be devoting more attention to than ranting on a forum.

I will put this down to a learning experience and thank your for making this forum a more interesting place with your presence.

What actually matters is what you are doing now and I should know that all too well, been doing this for long enough.

All the best for the future.

Nem

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Darude emotionless while live??? Sorry but is there a fake Darude going around? Seen enough sets to know even playing 2 sets in one night he's far from a bore to watch.

New Years Eve is gonna go off in Seattle!!!

Yeaaa Darude... *cough* sounds good... ahem

Sandstorm forever

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Originally posted by Timski Yeaaa Darude... *cough* sounds good... ahem Sandstorm forever

Here we go again...

I caught Darude in Seattle a couple months back. Although I'm not a fan of the sun glasses the set was pretty bangin. He was totally interacting with the crowd. More than any DJ I have ever seen. He held up signs asking if people liked the track selection, if they were having a good time, etc. The only part I didn't like was the last 30 minutes. It felt like a really long remix of Sandstorm. Other than that I can't compain and look forward to seeing him on NYE.