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speedracer_mec
DeepHouse & Progressive



Registered: Oct 2001
Location: Greece, where the good progressive comes from.

quote:
Originally posted by Dave Piazza
Speedracer,


Your a true Texas man. Full of bullshit and empty ideas.


When I put forth detailed plans on how Kerry is better than Bush economically and socially ( see 2004 Ballot thread) you fail to discredit how economic theory favors Kerry. You fail to ratioanlize or convince others why Bush isnt a Fuck up.

You resort to childish Southern Texas behavior.


Go raise some cattle young man and leave the politics to us educated folk


Someone stole your funny.

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Dave Piazza
The Elitist



Registered: Jun 2004
Location: Chicago

quote:
Originally posted by speedracer_mec
Someone stole your funny.



Agian you side track and ignore the isssues.


If you are Mr. Texas please show us how Bush's plan will work economically in the USA. Please use accepted economic framework to make your pitch and not some bullshit you made up. Keep in mind I have an economics degree.


And also please explain to me how as a Christian Bush's judgement to go war is ok in the faith? Isnt that kinda funny how he claims to be religious but acts like the Devil. Explain that Texas T


The Catholic church did not support the war. Yet he thinks God said it was ok!!? He truely is a fool.


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Dave Piazza
The Elitist



Registered: Jun 2004
Location: Chicago

As a Catholic I support some of Bush's ideas. However, I do not believe Bush really understands Christ. Mr. Bush , a person who proclaims his faith to Jesus, yet supports efforts of war,deception, and disregard to the poor,elderly, and sick in the USA is NOT the person who walks in accord with Christ. Mr. Bush is not the compassionate conservative America yearns for. Mr.Bush fails to realize that his once strong political tool,religion,has been weaken by his actions over the last 4 years.

Americans will be heard in todays election and brighter future will be upon us November 3rd. 2004. It is time for compassion and understadning to come forth from the White House. It is time for change.

John F. Kerry is our man to lead us all to that better future.


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speedracer_mec
DeepHouse & Progressive



Registered: Oct 2001
Location: Greece, where the good progressive comes from.

quote:
Originally posted by Dave Piazza
Agian you side track and ignore the isssues.


If you are Mr. Texas please show us how Bush's plan will work economically in the USA. Please use accepted economic framework to make your pitch and not some bullshit you made up. Keep in mind I have an economics degree.


And also please explain to me how as a Christian Bush's judgement to go war is ok in the faith? Isnt that kinda funny how he claims to be religious but acts like the Devil. Explain that Texas T


The Catholic church did not support the war. Yet he thinks God said it was ok!!? He truely is a fool.


We've discussed this already..I dont know where have you been.

1) Raise minimum wage at least 50%. Your effective income will go down if you make more than minimum wage, inflation will occur, and the number of labor intensive US jobs will be at least slightly reduced.

2) Have the Gov't handle all health care issues. No more medical insurance, you will pay for it out of your checks each week. Roughly twice the amount you currently pay for SSI will be deducted.

3) Let the UN handle all the US foreign policy. The UN will decide when and where US forces will be deployed and what they will be used for.

4) Expanded affirmitive action programs. Will include more different groups, and more programs. Hiring at all companies, not just gov't jobs, reduced or eliminated fees for gov't programs, preferential enrollment at all educational institutions, etc.

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Dave Piazza
The Elitist



Registered: Jun 2004
Location: Chicago

quote:
Originally posted by speedracer_mec
We've discussed this already..I dont know where have you been.

1) Raise minimum wage at least 50%. Your effective income will go down if you make more than minimum wage, inflation will occur, and the number of labor intensive US jobs will be at least slightly reduced.

2) Have the Gov't handle all health care issues. No more medical insurance, you will pay for it out of your checks each week. Roughly twice the amount you currently pay for SSI will be deducted.

3) Let the UN handle all the US foreign policy. The UN will decide when and where US forces will be deployed and what they will be used for.

4) Expanded affirmitive action programs. Will include more different groups, and more programs. Hiring at all companies, not just gov't jobs, reduced or eliminated fees for gov't programs, preferential enrollment at all educational institutions, etc.



Fair points.


How about the conflicts in Religious beliefs???


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MisterOpus1
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Registered: Dec 2001
Location: Kansas City

Speed, can you explain to me the prudence and wisdom of taking our eye off of the man that actually committed genocide on our soil for a man that had no ties to 9/11 in the first place, and was effectively contained by our sanctions? And can you further explain the fact that this genocidal maniac is still alive and apparently in good health clearly demonstrates our current Administration is strong on the war on terrorism?

Can you explain why our Vice President when he was working for Halliburton wanted to drop sanctions on Iran for business purposes only, when we full well knew Iran was harboring a slew of terrorist organizations including Al Qaeda, and was most certainly on our list of terrorist nations?

And finally, can you explain our Attorney General John Ashcroft's absolutely piss poor record of convicting known terrorists?


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Dave Piazza
The Elitist



Registered: Jun 2004
Location: Chicago

quote:
Originally posted by speedracer_mec

1) Raise minimum wage at least 50%. Your effective income will go down if you make more than minimum wage, inflation will occur, and the number of labor intensive US jobs will be at least slightly reduced.




True. but I beleive Kerry can counter that inflation with de-flationary policy via strategic energy and tax policy.


Thus the inflation of one area is balanced with delfationary measures in another area.


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Dave Piazza
The Elitist



Registered: Jun 2004
Location: Chicago

quote:
Originally posted by MisterOpus1
Speed, can you explain to me the prudence and wisdom of taking our eye off of the man that actually committed genocide on our soil for a man that had no ties to 9/11 in the first place, and was effectively contained by our sanctions? And can you further explain the fact that this genocidal maniac is still alive and apparently in good health clearly demonstrates our current Administration is strong on the war on terrorism?

Can you explain why our Vice President when he was working for Halliburton wanted to drop sanctions on Iran for business purposes only, when we full well knew Iran was harboring a slew of terrorist organizations including Al Qaeda, and was most certainly on our list of terrorist nations?

And finally, can you explain our Attorney General John Ashcroft's absolutely piss poor record of convicting known terrorists?


excellent post


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speedracer_mec
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Registered: Oct 2001
Location: Greece, where the good progressive comes from.

quote:
Originally posted by MisterOpus1
Speed, can you explain to me the prudence and wisdom of taking our eye off of the man that actually committed genocide on our soil for a man that had no ties to 9/11 in the first place, and was effectively contained by our sanctions?

Your going to talk about sanctions?

Did you read the dueffer report- section UN-food for oil scandal?
or did you skip to the section about the WMD only?

quote:

And can you further explain the fact that this genocidal maniac is still alive and apparently in good health clearly demonstrates our current Administration is strong on the war on terrorism?

It speaks wonder to have a man who committed that crime send us a tape to influence our elections as opposed to bombing trains in Spain during their election? Can you explain why he didnt attack us now if he is at full capacity? A tape to influence our elections.....bahhhhh haha

quote:

Can you explain why our Vice President when he was working for Halliburton wanted to drop sanctions on Iran for business purposes only, when we full well knew Iran was harboring a slew of terrorist organizations including Al Qaeda, and was most certainly on our list of terrorist nations?

I dont like Cheney....But you talking about IRAN? did you want to pick a bone with a bigger dog?
You libs argue about not going after Iran or N.Vietnam...so did you guys want a bigger war?

quote:

And finally, can you explain our Attorney General John Ashcroft's absolutely piss poor record of convicting known terrorists?

Havent looked at it...I'll get back to you on that one.



Now I'll get back to typing my paper

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Shakka
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Registered: Feb 2003
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quote:
Originally posted by Dave Piazza
You have no idea who I am. Look at my screen name carefully


OMG, is that THE Dave Piazza that raped a 13 year old boy in the alley behind Uno's?

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Dave Piazza
The Elitist



Registered: Jun 2004
Location: Chicago

quote:
Originally posted by Shakka
OMG, is that THE Dave Piazza that raped a 13 year old boy in the alley behind Uno's?






that was funny. I needed a laugh


And no


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Itarillė
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Registered: Jan 2004
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quote:
Originally posted by Dave Piazza
Speedracer,


Your a true Texas man. Full of bullshit and empty ideas.


When I put forth detailed plans on how Kerry is better than Bush economically and socially ( see 2004 Ballot thread) you fail to discredit how economic theory favors Kerry. You fail to ratioanlize or convince others why Bush isnt a Fuck up.

You resort to childish Southern Texas behavior.


Go raise some cattle young man and leave the politics to us educated folk


oh yes, your post here is a perfect example of how an educated person thinks...

speaking of being full of shit, why don't YOU sit on the shitter and think before you speak/post/fart, etc...


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