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BadBadNeil
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Even if lets say the person writing this article is correct and votes were not counted. Assuming the same ratio of the 98%+ of the people who's votes were counted Bush would have taken the same ratio from the non counted votes and still won.

And I can't believe the author is basing a part of his discussion on exit polls. Unless you talk to every person it is no more reliable than pre election polls.


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Old Post Nov-04-2004 23:16  United States
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drizzt81
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quote:
Originally posted by State of Matter
As for Kerry being a pussy, I disagree. I actually respect the fact that he doesnt want to drag America through another forever-long series of court battles and recounts.
I respect that too. I think it is the gentleman's choice. Elections should be about VOTES, not litigations.
quote:
We don't need a civil war.


I think that a Civil War wouldn't hurt the US, especially if the outcome were a more sophisticated (as in harder to manipulate) voting law. I think it is rediculous that people have to wait 5 hours to vote. In the end, this is the US, not some 3rd world country.

In the end, the productivity LOST due to crappy voting is probably close to the damage done by viruses. Especially if the same accounting standards are used.


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Old Post Nov-04-2004 23:35  Germany
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JM
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quote:
Originally posted by drizzt81

In the end, the productivity LOST due to crappy voting is probably close to the damage done by viruses. Especially if the same accounting standards are used.


productivity lost? in what sense? productivity lost at work due to people leaving work to go vote?

i can assume that many people voted before and after work, and not during. i'm also assuming they didn't leave work early either to go vote... also, there was a record turnout, much higher than expected in many places.

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Shakka
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quote:
Originally posted by drizzt81
I think that a Civil War wouldn't hurt the US, especially if the outcome were a more sophisticated (as in harder to manipulate) voting law. I think it is rediculous that people have to wait 5 hours to vote. In the end, this is the US, not some 3rd world country.


A civil war in the name of a voting law?

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Q5echo
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Registered: Feb 2004
Location: Dallas

quote:
Originally posted by drizzt81
I respect that too. I think it is the gentleman's choice. Elections should be about VOTES, not litigations.


I think that a Civil War wouldn't hurt the US


uhhh...dude?

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wolverine16
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Registered: Jun 2004
Location: Chicago, USA

quote:
Originally posted by drizzt81
I respect that too. I think it is the gentleman's choice. Elections should be about VOTES, not litigations.


I think that a Civil War wouldn't hurt the US, especially if the outcome were a more sophisticated (as in harder to manipulate) voting law. I think it is rediculous that people have to wait 5 hours to vote. In the end, this is the US, not some 3rd world country.

In the end, the productivity LOST due to crappy voting is probably close to the damage done by viruses. Especially if the same accounting standards are used.


I don't think there should be a civil war, but you do have a point about the long lines waiting to vote. There should have been more polling places in cities if lines were that long. Many people were turned away from voting, because the polls closed despite some waiting in lines for hours. If the polls close at 7 and you get there at 7:01 you shouldn't be able to vote, but people in Florida and Ohio were still waiting and never got a chance to vote. That puts a cap on how many people can vote in some urban areas, which is not democratic.


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imokruok
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Registered: Aug 2003
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Originally posted by Shakka
A civil war in the name of a voting law?


What? You aren't buying ammunition to secede over McCain-Feingold? I've been stocking up for over two years...


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PhloTron
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Originally posted by LiquidX
if all votes WERE counted,


Like my Pops tells me like it was back in the 60's in Chicago...

...Vote Early and Vote Often...



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josh4
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Yeh this crap doesn't do any good. Its a shame people didn't admit this before everything fell apart but the Democrats are totally to blame for this (I'm one, calm down). We got caught up in all the media and polls that made it look like we were coming out on top while the Republicans sat quietly by carefully planning. Democrats seriously need to regroup look at the bigger picture and reorganize themselves. The best point I've heard many a place since 2nd is we need to find quality canidates worth voting for as a person and not as an after thought.

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smokeape
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Registered: Jul 2003
Location: Heart of Dixie

quote:
Originally posted by josh4
Yeh this crap doesn't do any good. Its a shame people didn't admit this before everything fell apart but the Democrats are totally to blame for this (I'm one, calm down). We got caught up in all the media and polls that made it look like we were coming out on top while the Republicans sat quietly by carefully planning. Democrats seriously need to regroup look at the bigger picture and reorganize themselves. The best point I've heard many a place since 2nd is we need to find quality canidates worth voting for as a person and not as an after thought.


Said same in another post. Don't throw a Jane Fonda hugger out there and yank the gay rights platform off of your stage. Give us a Southern Democrat as well and you coulda had it.


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StereoPrincess
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Registered: May 2001
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Re: Re: Kerry won??

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Originally posted by speedracer_mec
Wow stop being a sore loser....go hide under a rock until 2008. GOODNIGHT


hahahahahahahahahahaha.

you are the idiot. like it bothers me one way or the other.

i am canadian.

just go to show you that there is another possibility of there being some cheatin' going on just like the last election.

Old Post Nov-05-2004 15:10  Poland
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